my stock PA-12 came with an O-235, no flaps. On a hot summer day at 6500 ft density altitude, it took about 1000 ft of ground roll, then another 1000 ft in ground effect until I could squeeze maybe 50 fpm climb. it was pitiful. VGs helped the performance tremendously, by allowing the plane to get into ground effect quicker. more horsepower cured the problem.
Sounds heavy to me, for a stock 12. My 12--- 0-320 with flaps and a few other mods ---empty weight 1084. How much stuff is in it that you don't really need ?????
Perhaps I should mention (for Glenn) The only time I put on a stock 12 was here in Wisconsin where most airports and hayfields are at about 900 MSL. The plane I flew was very light at the published weight of 950. I don't know how that plane would perform at high density altitudes. I DO KNOW that my 12 with flaps and the O-320 is NO DOG even at the density altitudes encountered on several trips to the rocky mountain west. The VARIABLES in airplanes is unlimited. As much as I like super cubs, I recently delivered one for a fellow that was an overweight PIG. (too many bells and whistles) Could NOT wait to get back in my LIGHT ---O-320 powered PA-12---with flaps. Where you fly and what you plan to do with an airplane has a lot to do with WHAT airplane you want/need. A stock 12 is a fun airplane and certainly better than NO airplane. O.K. I'll jump down off my soapbox now--HA !--- REALLY like my 12---geezer Dan
Glenn: Do you happen to know the empty weight ????? What prop ???VGs are really good too and don't weigh much......
, I recently delivered one for a fellow that was an overweight PIG. (too many bells and whistles)
bet you won't think its a pig now Dan,,,,,