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What is the worst storm you have ever been in?

Carbon Cub Chick

Registered User
Little Rock
What is the worst storm you have been in while in an aircraft, watercraft, car or otherwise?
While thank goodness we weren't in a plane, I thought it might spur some interesting tales if I started out sharing what happened to us in our boat yesterday.

Yesterday, Jason and I and some friends were parked on an island, enjoying the sunshine and watching the kids swim, when we noticed a dark cloud brewing. We were unable to get cell phone coverage so could not access our radar feature, but assumed it was just another of the numerous hit or miss thunderstorms that pop up in the summer. Although it looked like the cloud was breaking up, the wind started blowing pretty hard, so we packed up. We should have headed back to the marina, but it looked like it was raining there, so we thought we’d just go to another part of the large lake and watch the storm blow by, just like we have done countless numbers of times.

We have a 30 foot double-decker pontoon boat that goes 20 mph top speed, but it has a hard top shelter in the back that keeps most of the rain out. The wind and rain were following us, and at this point we did not know how bad the storm was so we decided to beach at another island and wait it out. We should have gotten on the leeward side of the island and perhaps try to tie up, but it was a small island with not much protection, and again, we had no idea the strength of this storm.

As we beached, the wind caught us from behind and quickly shoved the rear of the boat to the left, pinning us sideways to the island. So there we were, t-boned to the wind, thinking the storm would be spent after 10 minutes or so, just like most summertime storms we've ever experienced. But the wind just kept increasing in intensity, hurling 4-5 foot waves onto our boat. The boat was rocking madly and bashing against the rocks with all of us in the back holding on the best we could. Although it is a pretty sturdy boat on those pontoons, if we had been broadsided out in the middle of the lake free floating, it's possible that we could have been swamped.

The front canopy that is stitched to aluminum poles was the first thing to go. That boat has easily been in 30 mph winds with the canopy holding up just fine, so we were speculating that the winds had to be in excess of at least 60 mph to just shred and rip the canopy off so quickly. I was able to get cell coverage then, and the radar on my phone showed a huge red cell just sitting over us, and in spite of knowing better, I was looking for an eye in that cell. :lol: Right, we're out on a large lake in the middle of Arkansas :wink: , but a category one hurricane has a 4 to 5 foot surge with winds up to 74-95 mph, so it sure FELT like we were in one. :eek: For 45 minutes the waves and wind just kept pounding us; the rain felt like nails and was painful to be in. It was a complete white-out. At one point we heard this terrible screeching noise of the pontoons being raked over the rocks as the wind drove us sideways up onto the shallow, rocky beach. The kids were crying, while the adults all looked wide-eyed at each other wondering if the entire boat was going to break apart. :help

Finally, the wind started to abate, and we ventured outside of the boat to survey the damage. :peeper The sheet metal of the side of the boat exposed to the wind and waves had been almost completely bowed in and torn from the frame. On the other side, a six foot portion of the beached metal pontoon had been buckled in (but thankfully not punctured). There was another boat down the beach from us with their motor down, so we thought for sure that their lower unit had been sheared off. But they were fortunate and were in an area of clay, so their prop just dug into the clay and was protected. We helped them get the prop out of the clay and to back off the island, and they in turn, help tow off the island our almost completely beached boat.

Amazingly, the pontoons held and our prop was still in good condition from having trimmed the motor all the way up before we were beached. When we got back to the marina, there was some damage to the docks, but it is in a cove and somewhat sheltered by the surrounding mountains. When we docked, we noticed bubbles coming out of what we thought was the non-damaged pontoon, but there are compartments in them and it soon filled and stayed floating.

Needless to say, the damage is in the thousands and we'll be filing an insurance claim. But we all came out of it unscathed, and that's all that really matters. :Gwoohoo:

The weather forecast for that day was just the standard 20% chance of thunderstorms. Looking back at the radar loop, that cell formed right over the lake and headed south. I have never been in a storm with such intense, sustained winds!!!

It was just a reminder of what mother nature can throw at you regardless of the weather forecast. :rock:
 
Cross winds gusting to 40+.... 50 hours tail wheel time.... I should have flew to another air field but instead made several stupid attemps to land so I could hanger the plane. I was very lucky that day. Checked the weather and the winds were to pick up in the afternoon not 10 am. Mark
 
This story was told to me by a close friend who pushed his luck flying from Lakeland Florida to Louisiana:

"With a 40mph tailwind I left out of Lake Lowery at 6:00est and was home in Louisiana at 1:00cst. 1:45 LAL to TLH in a PA18Amphib! Wow. I knew I was being sucked into a huge frontal system but the goal was to fly as close as possible then let the fast mover blow on by so I could continue. Stopped in Talahassee to look at the radar and decided to continue on to PFN and look again at the progress of the frontal system now between Destin and Pensacola charging East at 30MPH. Over PFN the bases dropped to 300' out on the shoreline but I'm still not near the heavy frontal stuff so I blew on by to Destin hugging the sand beach with the towering condos on my right wing tip with a 148mph groundspeed. 5 minutes prior my eta Destin became IFR in heavy rain. Bad bad bad frontal shift at Destin. I hit heavy rain and severe turbulence for 5 minutes after the 20 minutes of 400' x 2miles since PFN. Note to self: If you plan to stupidly fly into a Ts in your Cub be sure to put a 2" thick foam pad on the overhead "x" brace. I have two very nice cuts on my head that happened on the second and third severe updraft after the one that knocked off the headset and dropped my 296GPS (towers!!) under the seat. I slammed into a wall of water and cloud at 300' and pulled up to 1000 calling Eglin that I was now IFR. He told me to maneuver as needed and get back to VFR and I was cleared over Hurlburt airspace. Then I lost the headset and the GPS but still had the 250 in the panel. At 800 feet I broke out over the center line of 18-36 at Hurlburt airbase and found the headset, put it on and asked Eglin for permission to land Hurlburt . He gave me Hurlburt 's freq and after ten tries I got it on the dial. Hurlburt said I had to declare an IFE to land. I said I am. He said "What is the emergency." I said (honestly) "I'm gonna die if I don't get this plane on the ground". "What is the emergency." "I cannot maintain VFR." "What is the reason for the emergency...." By this time I was about 25 feet above the two mile long runway and heading south into a 35k wind out of 140. Not a good thing even after getting on the ground. Ahead was the water of Sarasota Sound and I decided I would go straight in and land into the wind and just try to get to the bank straight ahead behind a large forest. As I crossed over the bank I looked right and saw a bit of light to the East, turned toward it and wizzzed off about 20 feet over the sound heading for Pensacola. "Once more what is the specific cause of your emergency." "Sir I would have to say stupidity but I'm a bit better now and wish to declare the emergency situation over and I am continuing the flight VFR to PNS." That, my friends, was very very close. And a PA18's wings are very very strong.

Well I lived. But I did keep thinking of being buried on a sunny day."

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He has a friend who is a retired United Pilot back in Orlando who wrote him when he heard about the flight:

"When we got up Sunday morning I told Trish, "looks like he'll have trouble getting home today". Trish and I already know about the overhead crossbars, and you don't have to be IN a thunderstorm.

That experience will make for some interesting hanger talk over a beer or two, or three.
I do want to mention now though that certain controllers have lead to the demise of a number of pilots in situations like yours by taking the same approach (attitude) to the pilots need for assistance. They are more concerned about following regs. and SOPs in order to cover their asses than they are in helping to save yours. Most have no clue what it is like up there when you need desperately to be down there with them. Its pretty easy to be procedurally correct when you are the one sitting in air conditioning with a cup of coffee in your hand and your feet up on the desk.

Once you have declared an emergency all regs are secondary and matters are in YOUR hands, screw the controller and his "authority" and all remaining regs. You will have to explain your situation and actions later anyway, but at least you will be alive. I know of pilots that were instead intimidated and shortly dead.

You just found out what I learned over 33 years of airline flying, never, never, fly into a T storm with a light aircraft - even transports catch hell, some have come apart. I have heard a couple of "seasoned" IFR rated light pilots say the concern is over stated. One I know is still alive - he lives in upper New England, not Florida.

While reading your missive I felt like I was right there with you and exactly how you were feeling - who says you can't fly a Super Cub on instruments! Glad you made it home OK and that life doesn't have to be dull after retirement.

R. "

ALL NAMES HAVE BEEN CHANGED IN THE ABOVE
TO PROTECT THE IGNORANT."
 
40ft fishing boat, 30ft seas, 60kt winds gusting 80kt+. Going from Cape Igvak on Alaska Pen to Kodiak after Sockeye fishing season ended. Two other boats we were traveling with had pilot house windows punched out. We had Lexan outer windows so was like being in a washing machine for several hours. Spent more time airborne in the cabin than on the seat or bunk. Watched ourselves go backward on radar for 2 hours until ducking into Puale Bay and tossing out the anchor. Next morning was flat calm and headed home after re-stowing gear which had shifted on deck. Is amazing how fast weather can go from bad to worse and from worse to nothing. When we departed the weather forecast for the Shelikof strait was for small craft advisory.

Had some friends take the ferry between Kodiak and Homer. Normally a 12hr trip on the MV Tustumena. Their trip was 30hrs with 12 of it spent behind the Barren islands on the north end of Kodiak with the anchor out and the engine in gear to keep from draggin the anchor. When they left Kodiak and were about 3mi off of Spruce cape the ferry was disappearing from sight as it descended into the wave trough and throwing a huge amount of water spray it's entire 300ft length.
 
[quote="Had some friends take the ferry between Kodiak and Homer. Normally a 12hr trip on the MV Tustumena. Their trip was 30hrs with 12 of it spent behind the Barren islands on the north end of Kodiak with the anchor out and the engine in gear to keep from draggin the anchor. When they left Kodiak and were about 3mi off of Spruce cape the ferry was disappearing from sight as it descended into the wave trough and throwing a huge amount of water spray it's entire 300ft length.[/quote]

If it's the same event, I heard that it took them a day in Homer just to extricate all the cars and semis from the vehicle bay with wreckers.
 
Worst storm on a Ship:

The North Sea 1980. I was on a Knox Class Frigate USS-Valdez FF-1096.(438 feet long) We were taking green sea water over the flying bridge. Welds were breaking and bolts were shearing off equipment. I had grown up on fishing boats between here and Kodiak, but I thought we were gonners for awhile. Even the old salts were sick as could be. A big giant hotel type thing, that was used by the oil companies for their Oil Rig workers, capsized during the storm.

In a Plane:

March 2003 in the mountains North of Kamloops Canada. I was trying to fly a spam can back from the Lower 48. The Nav Canada weather briefer was way off on the prediction.
It started snowing, the ceiling came down below the mountain tops and the GPS pointed right at solid granite as the way to the nearest runway.
I tried to turn back to kamloops, but the wind kicked up and slowed me to
40 mph ground speed.

So I made a run to the west towards Williams Lake. While trying to fly over one of those long narrow lakes that have cliffs on both sides, I got into a rotor of some sort. I ended up doing two barrel rolls while being thrown around. I could hear the wings creaking and all sorts of stuff from the floor was flying around inside the plane. The prop was racing from being trapped in the gusts, so I brought her back to idle and let her get thrown around.

The next chance I got , I dove for the lake shore. I spotted a logging road and was going to do an emergency landing. But the snow looked deep.
So I stayed low and followed it looking for a place to set down. The wind was much less down low and I stayed over that logging road mile after mile until I got to a real road. By then I cold talk to Williams Lake and a guy there knew which road I was over. He told me which way to go and I followed it to Williams Lake where I sat out the next couple days.
 
April 1st, 1980. East Anchorage had official sustained wind readings of 130mph. We thought it'd be fun to go outside until we saw what turned out to be a 36' glue-lam fly by from 1/4 mile away where it had departed from a house. Camper shells and small buildings were in the air that night. My truck's tonneau cover was found in one piece several blocks away.

I went to bed on March 30th unemployed. On April 2nd I got a job as a roofer.

Flying wasn't an option.


Around that same year a couple of friends and I were driving to Valdez for the Early Bird Softball Tournament. I was snowing so hard in Thompson Pass we had to take turns getting out and walking with a flashlight, guiding the truck to keep it on the road by feeling the guardrail. We were terrified a plow truck would get us if we stayed on the road but we couldn't find our way off. I've never been so exhausted in my life as I was that night when we found a pull-out. Cold, wet, tired, and scared.

Stewart
 
Gotta agree with Stewart there. I was in east Anchorage, off Muldoon road in that storm. It wasn't just wind, it was sustained wind. Made the power poles along several roads look like toothpicks. It caused a lot of damage. For those who remember Visions TV in Anchorage, those antennas looked like 105mm shells flying off roof tops in that wind. I wonder how many people remember Visions .........
 
Lake Williams

I can understand what Alex went through at Lake Williams. My wife and I were camping there one summer. We had a truck and camper, we were sitting inside having coffee. Through the windows we could see water skiers and people swimming, throwing sticks for dogs ect. Tents all around the camping area. Just a nice day. You could see in the distance, black fingers of a storm coming down the canyons. All the ski boats made a dash in. People left the water, and wham the storm hits. It blew hard enough to shake the truck pretty hard, and alot of water came in around the door seal of the camper. Lightning, thunder the whole works. In fifteen minutes it was over and the sun came out.
I opened the door and walked out side with the same cup of coffee. and noticed not one tent was standing and most were along ways from where they were put. The ski boats started up, swimmers went back in, and dogs were chasing sticks again. Those Canadians are a tuff lot !

Bill
 
Tim Pennell and his wife put me up in Williams Lake. He was the voice on the radio. I was dripping with sweat so I had to strip down and use thier washer as soon as I got to their house. (el-stinko) Even my airforce flight jacket was soaked through. I needed several stiff drinks that night.

The folks at the Williams Lake flight service acted like that happened all the time...
 
While in the Navy flying out of Kodiak we would witness some real storms in the Bering Sea. It was not uncommon to see some fishing boat riding out a sea state of 6+ One minute you could see him the next minute he would be totally submerged by water only to bob up at the end of the wave. And this might go on for hours.
 
What Cajun Joe says...............

Early in my flying career I ended up in an embedded TS flying a Baron (no radar). The resulting turbulence was undescribable.......fortunately I was alone. The baggage, flight bag, charts, etc. were being tossed randomly about the cockpit........slamming into the panel and control levers........seatbelt so tight it hurt and I had virtually no control of my upper body. A/P off and altitude +/-2000'.........Center is calling and I can't talk......both hands on the control wheel and I'm still amazed I could even keep a semblance of wings level........instruments blurry.......I'm weightless half the time. I could only think of what an old timer told me........"Don't worry about alt or heading, keep as level as possible and fly straight ahead" All the while heavy rain & hail are beating me up.
What was probably about 10 minutes seemed like forever when I exited the other side.
The rest of the day 'til my pulse was back to normal. Ended up with the glass broken on one tach and a few popped wing rivets. Beech builds a good product. Lesson learned.........I won't get bit twice.
 
what is the worst storm you have ever been in

About 15 years ago when i only had about 400 hours approach control vectored me into a level 5 cell,i was on an ifr flight plan in a bonanza, i told them the heading looked pretty bad and they replied that a king air had gone though that area about 15 minutes ago with no problem,(i think most approach controllers have better radar now but their primary purpose is still aircraft separation). I went in at 6000,unbelievable turbulence,my headliner came loose,several instruments including one radio came loose and fell inside the dash,i swear it looked like the wings bent 4 ft,hard downdraft pegged my vsi at >2000fpm with my engine at full power and airspeed at vx,raining so hard i couldn't hear the engine,declared an emergency as i was decending thru 2000, stopped my descent at 800ft then hit the updraft part,going up this time >2000fpm with power off and nose down ,got his once by lighting that was going off constantly,stopped going up at 13,500 when i flew out the side,didn't really have time to think about dying until then, landed at the airport and walked over to flight service which was located on the field to look at their radar, they wanted to show me a tornado on radar 7 miles west of the field, i told them to come look at my plane,(no paint on the leading edges of the wing and a lightning hole) I asked them if they had communicated this to the tower and they said no but they had called the tv station, i said thats great since the tower had just vectored me 8 miles west of the field, bought a baron with radar the next week. Flying a j-3 and a 185 now but is still get nervous in the rain. I learned a good lesson, atc can help but often their weather info is not correct,if it looks bad it probably is, if they are wrong and you aren't carefull you, not them , will be buried on the next sunny day
 
Just a quick recap on our boat. We are waiting to hear from the insurance adjuster, but he ALL BUT SAID the boat was totalled. Both pontoons are leaking and need to be replaced. To do that they would have to rip up the carpet and take out all seats, cabinets, etc. That coupled with all of the other damage makes that boat scrap metal and an outboard engine.

Better a wrecked boat on an island than a wrecked plane anywhere!

Thanks for the stories!!!

~Tish
 
Worst Storm

Midwest thunderstorms, King Air, Radar just failed, thinking "great, what next" looked out the windshield and everything was dark green.
"hold on, this isn't going to be good" and it wasn't.
 
cubchick said:
Just a quick recap on our boat. We are waiting to hear from the insurance adjuster, but he ALL BUT SAID the boat was totalled. Both pontoons are leaking and need to be replaced. To do that they would have to rip up the carpet and take out all seats, cabinets, etc. That coupled with all of the other damage makes that boat scrap metal and an outboard engine.

Better a wrecked boat on an island than a wrecked plane anywhere!

Thanks for the stories!!!


~Tish

Tish-

Good luck with the new boat, here is our pontoon :lol: :lol: Maybe you can get some decorating ideas from my sister:p :p :p :p :p
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:p :p :p :p :p

Tim
 
1982, south of Shelikof Straits bucking into 40' seas and 70 knot winds - (not the worst I've been in), but we opened a tank into the engine room! I fugure that we had six to eight thousand pounds of Chignik reds slopping around the bilge. Whoo hoo! That was a hoot! We made it into Spiradon and pumped out the fish and fixed the hold, when we left 14 hours later it was calm as glass. We were still finding fish under the mains three months later! Yech!
 
storms

I have been in a few storms. Twice in an tent ,once in my old 19 foot boat and another newer 24 foot boat . Glad i wasn't in a plane,All storms were very scary with trees breaking debrie flying hail,rain, waves ,just hoping the ropes were aging on to don't break. As for my worst storm i hope i never see it. I have read some were that their is 3500 storms on the globe at one time,that is a lot of storms .
 
Here in Western Kansas I made the mistake of leaving a plow in the ground in the path of a oncoming storm. The wind pushed the tractor backwards and unplowed 60 acres of summerfallow.

steve
Dodge City
 
unplowed 60 acres.......that's good.


it got so hot here one time that the field corn started popping. The cows thought it was snowing and froze to death.

S.
 
...froze to death :crazyeyes:

:D That same storm turned a half full 5 gallon can of kerosene inside out and didn't spill a drop.
 
Flying back from New Holsteins I was dodging thunderstorms and I sure was happy knowing I had my new 31 inch tires on. Having landed on a soft runway in a kitfox and ending up upside down, i've always wanted those HUGE wheels. Now that I have them, I cannot imagine not having them.
I feel much more relaxed landing and I'm certain if I got forced down due to a thunderstorm, I'd have twice the options avialable for landing spots.
If you upgrade from smaller tires - don't make the mistake of going with any less than 31 inches - do it once and do it right. The Garmin 296 with terain awareness is the other gadget I have which I cannot imagine not having.
my 2 cents for the day.
cliff in Maine
N82225
 
After 4 seasons of flying weathermod in TX I've come to respect thunderstorms. They are like wild animals, if you get complacent they will turn to bite you.
 
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