Tell me your favorite mount!

[btracy]

Greg just clamped the video camera to my tail spring on one of the Ohio Bush Pilot shots that he did and got some great footage of the bottom of the airplane and the landing gear. He has also camped it the the cabane on the landing gear vee. Next time se do it we will have to takes some photos of it.

 

[Steve Pierce]

Was it only me who read that subject line and figured SJ was gonna have to hit the censor button...........

sorry.....

ok how many others are still stuck rehashing in you mind & trying to grade and rate them... and wishing you could set up an elimination round to find the true best one.......

Especially when you see who initiated the thread.

 

[Pokette]

I flew yesterday with the same mount located in two different places on the strut. As close as possible to the jury strut, and as close as possible to the wing attach point. I checked the plate where the camera is mounted and due to the design of the bottom of the camera there was some play - so I added the thinnest piece of cork/rubber that i could find and tried to crush it to the plate to eliminate any source of vibration. It worked ... well sort of... I did not have vibration at 1500 rpm or lower - still plenty at fully power and higher... it might just be the camera design and I need to try a lighter one with a flat bottom! Let me know about the GoPro please...

sorry.....

ok how many others are still stuck rehashing in your mind & trying to grade and rate them... and wishing you could set up an elimination round to find the true best one.......

OK, OK how many others are still stuck wishing your partner had an endless creative mind so the grading and rating would take a long long time.....

 

[irishfield]

OK, OK how many others are still stuck wishing your partner had an endless creative mind so the grading and rating would take a long long time.....

 

[Steve Pierce]

Diana, I was beginning to wonder about you.

 

[Pokette]

What were you wondering Steve?

 

[Steve Pierce]

I thought maybe we were reading something into it that you didn't intend which is contrary to the Diana I have come to know. :lol:

 

[Patrol Guy]

Diana, This is just a little POV (?) camera, but does real good and there is nothing but electrical tape.

 

[Pokette]

From Rod:
I took a piece of Aluminum strap and
bent in a u-shape. I used foam pipe insulation to surround the X brace
above the pax seat. Did not have a vibration issue. The view from the
camera is out both the windshield and a partial out the left side window
while capturing the left half of the instrument panel and the pilot from the
rear. The ty-wrap is just for safety should the mounting bolt come undone.
This view offers a nice perspective of life inside the cockpit while still
offering a limited glimpse outside. The footage works well with other
exterior mounted cameras when editing for a DVD. My ASI, Alt and VSI are
all on the left side of the instrument panel. This is good for performing
test flights when one wishes to document data from those instruments. For
safety sake, I do not use this mount with a passenger in the back seat as
the proximity to their head and the mount is too close. The J5 has a wider
fuselage interior than a J3/PA18. It may be better or worse in a narrower
cockpit.

I am going to see if I have pic of an exterior mount that Ive tried.

 

[Rode]

Camera mount/Duct tape

The picture on the ladder was an example of experimental use of cotton work gloves and duct tape as knee pads while working on the deck at the cabin. Not sure we can get field approval but it certainly worked. :lol:

 

[pfjay52]

i wonder if she disregards FAA guidelines the same way she does the OSHA guidelines?? she's obviously not following the placard on the side of the ladder.. and no safety harness.
when i first saw this thread, i thought it was about horses....
Good luck with your mount Pokette!
Phil
my Ram mount works perfect attached to the horizontal brace on the strut. maybe you over-engineered this?

 

[Rode]

camera mount

I hear ya ! 'cept the duct tape gal isnt a flyer nor under OSHA. Its her cabin and in Alaska that would put under C-OSHA rules and regs. (Cabin Owners Subsistance & Happiness Administration) She is probably not used to reading ladder lables either as all of the previous ladders onsite were home-made from skinny spruce poles. :lol: - Rod

 

[Pokette]

So how did that GoPro work out?
I'm thinking of getting one of those...

Seriously I need more pictures of mounts...

 

[irishfield]

Haven't had a chance to use it in an airplane yet Pokette !!

Closest was a few fishing video's in about a 5 foot "chop" on Lake Ontario.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iPpDKm96fo

That will bring it up in 360 res... you can click on the 360 and up it right to 1080HD if your computer video card and internet connection can handle it!

 

[Pokette]

Pretty Cool, what did you mount it on?

 

[irishfield]

That was the suction cup mount, just stuck to the boat gunwale. Stayed there all day and never came loose. It comes with that mount.. a few dual direction adjustables that can go on it or the clip mounts that also come with the Hero HD Motorsport. Unit also comes with 3 stick on flat surface mounts and 2 curved mounts.

The option I would buy for the Cub would be the handlebar mount for $19.99 so you can clamp it on a fus tube. I plan to put mine out on a wing strut or the float deck (with a safety cable I'll have to make). The wing strut I should be able to reach to turn on and off in flight. Camera comes with a waterproof case that you have to put it into use any of the mounts.

 

[WSH]

Haven't had a chance to use it in an airplane yet Pokette !!

Closest was a few fishing video's in about a 5 foot "chop" on Lake Ontario.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iPpDKm96fo

That will bring it up in 360 res... you can click on the 360 and up it right to 1080HD if your computer video card and internet connection can handle it!

"5 foot chop"?

I've seen bigger waves in my coffee cup! :lol:

Seriously, I tried the "Hero" but you'll get the "prop" effect with it. Of course, I didn't try it out on the strut either.

 

[irishfield]

I don't call them waves until they hit 10 feet WSH ! lol

What setting did you have yours on when it showed the prop swirl...

 

[WSH]

I don't call them waves until they hit 10 feet WSH ! lol

What setting did you have yours on when it showed the prop swirl...

Oh, that's a good question. I borrowed it from a friend and he had set it up, IIRC, I did "try" and change the settings. I didn't have much success but I honestly don't remember the exact setting.

After I gave it back I read somewhere you could use a filter to block out the effect.

Keep us posted,if you can get it to work I'll "borrow" it again. :lol:

 

[irishfield]

Issue will be when I finally get to try it... I won't be on-line again until October.

There are 5 video settings.. .. but I guess the only real difference between any of them is either 60 images per second or 30. Both not good when it comes to a prop, since we can set our tach parked under a light using 60 Hz voltage... and getting it to look like it's sitting still at multiples of 60.

If I get a chance... I'll set it up in an airplane and run it up on each of the settings and see how the prop shows up.

 

[Grizzley]

Just bought a GoPro.
Based on countless Motorcycle rider friends who have used it on different bikes, front and rear mounted, some involved in get-offs or hitting deer, etc. No problem visible with vibration; hope not, cause I will mount it on my Milwaukee vibrator (Harley) till I get the PA-12 back in the air.
At $255.99 including shipping, how could you go wrong?
I am thinking of a couple different mounting spots. One of which would be on the long refueling step. It has a wide angle, so I figure you could also get some good shots that would include the pilot & passenger from a strut mount. Stay tuned...
Grizz

 

[OVEREASYGUY]

Pokette:
This is a repost of my comments on the Sony I have -it's amazing! I just mount it up with a Ram mount. Works slick. It has a remote - so in theory you could mount it outside on the strut and control it from inside.
it is truly an amazing camera - read below:
cliff in Maine

I had the opportunity to upgrade my video camera recently to the Sony HDR-CX520V - with 64 GB of internal flash memory. This is a true high definition video recorder. It will record up to 26 hours of video without even using the optional plug in memory sticks. It has GPS built into it, and a 12 Mega Pixel camera, and three way shake canceling - it's loaded with features and it's VERY small - fits right in your hand. I got it off Amazon. com for $1116.00 shipping included. I bet these sell out fast!

my experience indicates the only smart way to shoot video from an airplane is by using a video camera which stores the info directly to flash memory - not a spinning hard drive like so many use these days.

I think the Sony HDR-CX520V is an amazing piece of equipment!

 

[akavidflyer]

So how did that GoPro work out?
I'm thinking of getting one of those...

Seriously I need more pictures of mounts...

I had my gopro on my plane and it does not like shooting through the prop or certain RPM's. On the helmet out snow machining it works great. I had to cobble together a mount when I put it on the plane, and it was not the most secure. Maybe when I get home this hitch, I will come up with a better mount and try it again.

The gopro vid starts at 4:55. Of course, this is compressed for uploading etc, the actual vid looks pretty darn good on the big screen. I think that with a good mount I will be able to get great vid with it. It did MUCH better on flat light days than my old cameras did.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jvd2jTj7YgE

CMOS cams dont like shooting through the prop from all the ones I have tried.

The go pro HD is under 300 bucks and a 32g card will record all the flight time you want in a day.

 

[mike mcs repair]

just stumbled on this...

food for thought.... kinda big... but

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKxMuwq22sM

 

[Beach Bum]

Maybe it's not all in the mount?

My son has looked into to minimizing vibration and picture distortion. He found information on the web with demos that showed cameras with 3CCD images sensors to have superior picture quality and reduced vibration. In the demo the guy puts a CMOS and 3CCD camera through comparative tests and the 3CCD was noticeably better at reducing vibration in the picture.

Here is the demo. In each test he is subjecting both cameras to vibration

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSWDP1Tsj1Y

Looks like the Panasonics are one way to go.

 

[OLDCROWE]

Just started Video fun and am using the ram yoke mount that came with a GPS clamped to the Vee brace or the overhead tube at the windscreen. Rather than order a ram camera mont I drilled and JB'd a 1/4 20 threaded stud into the back of a ram ball mount to thread into the camera base works great with no vibration and you can get it aligned easily...

 

[Grizzley]

I've used the GoPrp HD on my Milwaukee vibrator (Harley Davidson) and it handles the shake very well even on twisted bumpy roads traveling at over 100 MPH (Cub speed). I haven't had the chance to try it in or on the plane which is still at the IKEA stage...
The image quality is very good. and you can see all kinds of samples on Youtube off of motocross or road bikes, skydivers, etc.
The 2 chinks I anticipate is that there is no screen to see what you are shooting and there is no remote control. I suppose its going to be trial and error to set the angles and start the recording before the flight and stop it after landing; this is for when it is mounted outside.

Its is very inexpensive and comes with all kinds of mounts including helmet mount. I think in my case, I will use the GoPro for outside and find something else with screen for inside the plane.
JD

 

[Coyote Ugly]

Maybe it's not all in the mount?

My son has looked into to minimizing vibration and picture distortion. He found information on the web with demos that showed cameras with 3CCD images sensors to have superior picture quality and reduced vibration. In the demo the guy puts a CMOS and 3CCD camera through comparative tests and the 3CCD was noticeably better at reducing vibration in the picture.

Here is the demo. In each test he is subjecting both cameras to vibration

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSWDP1Tsj1Y

Looks like the Panasonics are one way to go.

I just kind of came to the same conclusion on my own, after doing a bunch of "google searches", cmos sensors by their nature don't like shooting through props, where ccd sensors don't seem to have that problem. I bought a used Panasonic 3ccd camera on Ebay, and it seems to work good. Now, a new problem tho, with the increased resolution, I can see that my mount is letting the camera vibrate a little, so have to come up with a better mount, that's the reason for searching and checking out this forum.. It seems to me that the v tube in front of me is the best to operate the camera, but the x brace behind me sure has less vibration.. Has anyone tried a shoulder mount? Probably no vibration there. Anyway, here's a short test clip, shot hand held with the new to me Panasonic HDC SD5. You can click on the resolution, kick it up to 1080, then go to fullscreen, and actually, it looks pretty good.

 

[AntiCub]

I just bought a Drift HD170 camera. It comes with a handle bar mount for mountain bikes that I'm going to try attaching to the tubes on the Challenger. Otherwise I think their helmet mount can be strapped to a strut pretty easily. Some of the other guys on the Challenger forum are using the GoPro and mounting it with velcro with good results.

 

[Amy]

I just bought a Drift HD170 camera. It comes with a handle bar mount for mountain bikes that I'm going to try attaching to the tubes on the Challenger. Otherwise I think their helmet mount can be strapped to a strut pretty easily. Some of the other guys on the Challenger forum are using the GoPro and mounting it with velcro with good results.

supilot from here suggested velcro/sticky tape. It actually works surprisingly well! I was skeptical but it is solid. With the small solid-state cameras there's not much to shake so it's a nice cheap way to play around with putting the camera in different places.

We also made a custom mount out of an inspection cover near the end of the strut. I will have to take a picture of that the next time I am out at DCA HQ.