I had my 1951 pa18 125 weighed 10 years ago by a guy in wasilla with electronic portable scales. The weight he came up with is 1150lbs. My cub has a 150 ND,HD STD. GEAR,HD CLEVELAND BRAKES,GEARED STARTER,UNDERSEAT STORAGE,EXT. BAGGAGE,METAL HEAD LINER,GENERATOR, SAFETY CABLES, kX 155, LIGHT WEIGHT FABRIC. 82" PROP The catch is my tires are Schneider racing slicks they weigh in at 120 lbs with the brake disks on. It will be interesting to see when I install 31"BW and clevelands 44# savings and small batt. 13# plus another 7# light weight starter if it will really be a 1090 cub! By the looks of other posts his high dollar scales might of been off. I guess the end result is cubs don't fly themselves. You have to add in the lard ass in the front seat.