• If You Are Having Trouble Logging In with Your Old Username and Password, Please use this Forgot Your Password link to get re-established.
  • There is no better time to show your support for SuperCub.Org than during our annual calendar campaign! All the details are HERE

Oops, darn it...

D4114910-16FE-4AF2-B3A1-263522F86A3E.jpeg
here is another shot of it
 

Attachments

  • D4114910-16FE-4AF2-B3A1-263522F86A3E.jpeg
    D4114910-16FE-4AF2-B3A1-263522F86A3E.jpeg
    112 KB · Views: 223
I’ve never seen a tow plane with bushwheels and a belly pod.

Edit: Found a pic of it picking up a banner at some point. Learn something new all the time I guess. Lol
 
Last edited:
“I feel badly we were in his way. I didn’t think he was landing or I didn’t know what he was doing.” Said witness and beach goer Julie Zoog, what a women!

Reminds me of the first time I met the new owners of the 40 acres below and off to the right of my place (new, after being in the same local family for 100+ years) his wife said, first thing : "if there's ever anything we can do to make your flying in and out of your place easier, just let me know." She can do no wrong, as long as we are neighbors.
 
If that cub wasn’t totaled after the landing it will be after that attempted recovery.

not if they get that spinner down into the sand and help the tail up to begin and then catch the tail when it comes over. only way i can see to do it unless theres a football team nearby. belley pods got to come off. thinking about it i would take the spinner and prop off also and mount a 2x8 or something on the crank.
 
Last edited:
A easy way to get a plane off its back by hand is take an old Bushwheel tire or truck inner tube and stick it on the nose as you bring it over. Get some guys and walk it upright, make sure you have some ropes on the tail for stability and to help pull. As it go's over the top get some people to catch it as it comes down so you don't bend the airframe. A helicopter with a rope on the tail makes flipping a plane a 5 min job, usually the cheapest, and easiest way, you will spend more time thanking/paying the pilot than what it takes to do the flip. We get them flown in from the bush upside down a lot. NOTE: If the local wrench turners have not had experience in doing this anything can turn into a major goat rope.
DENNY
 
Spinner crushed, prop bent, wings bent, airframe certainly bent, laying in salt water... For God's sake, don't scratch it when flipping back over!
 
I've heard the best thing to do with an airplane after ditching in salt water is to immerse it in fresh water for a while.
 
Sorry to say but it’s done. The FAA will pull the airworthy Cert. after going into Salt Water. Seems they feel it’s done when that happens. Salt will get into tubing if any breaks etc.
just good no bad injuries, planes are replaceable.
 
Sorry to say but it’s done. The FAA will pull the airworthy Cert. after going into Salt Water. Seems they feel it’s done when that happens. Salt will get into tubing if any breaks etc.
just good no bad injuries, planes are replaceable.

Is that something new? Haven’t had a certified airplane in several years so I don’t know.
 
Not my experience... Kinda ridiculous when you can buy all those parts new. But then again, they don’t like us replacing all the old parts with new at the same time...:roll:
 
N88452 7GCBC 12/7/16: https://data.ntsb.gov/Docket?ProjectID=94474

Today: "Jury finds pilot blameless in fatal crash, awards widow $3.5 million. The estate of Mike Kelly sued Washington-based Micro AeroDynamics for damages, holding that Kelly was not made aware of the possibility of a tail stall after having vortex generators installed on his aircraft."

Previous NTSB finding: "There was no guidance provided by Micro AeroDynamics on how to determine adverse effect or how to conduct a subjective evaluation flight test. The manufacturer provided no information on how the slow flight characteristics would change what is published in the POM."

Gary
 
Last edited:
N88452 7GCBC 12/7/16: https://data.ntsb.gov/Docket?ProjectID=94474

Today: "Jury finds pilot blameless in fatal crash, awards widow $3.5 million. The estate of Mike Kelly sued Washington-based Micro AeroDynamics for damages, holding that Kelly was not made aware of the possibility of a tail stall after having vortex generators installed on his aircraft."

Previous NTSB finding: "There was no guidance provided by Micro AeroDynamics on how to determine adverse effect or how to conduct a subjective evaluation flight test. The manufacturer provided no information on how the slow flight characteristics would change what is published in the POM."

Gary

NTSB does not appear to include the final accident report in the docket. It can be found by going to CAROL basic search and entering the NTSB number:

https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-main-public/basic-search
ANC17FA009

I found no mention of "tail stall" in the NTSB report.
 
The pilot was conducting a 14 CFR 91.407 (b) operational check. Apparently the local jury was convinced he was not adequately informed or prepared for the task. Remains to be seen what legal maneuvers lie ahead.

Gary
 
N88452 7GCBC 12/7/16: https://data.ntsb.gov/Docket?ProjectID=94474

Today: "Jury finds pilot blameless in fatal crash, awards widow $3.5 million. The estate of Mike Kelly sued Washington-based Micro AeroDynamics for damages, holding that Kelly was not made aware of the possibility of a tail stall after having vortex generators installed on his aircraft."

Previous NTSB finding: "There was no guidance provided by Micro AeroDynamics on how to determine adverse effect or how to conduct a subjective evaluation flight test. The manufacturer provided no information on how the slow flight characteristics would change what is published in the POM."

Gary

Good grief! Another “tailwheel is an inherently dangerous design” lawsuit.

MTV
 
N88452 7GCBC 12/7/16: https://data.ntsb.gov/Docket?ProjectID=94474

Today: "Jury finds pilot blameless in fatal crash, awards widow $3.5 million. The estate of Mike Kelly sued Washington-based Micro AeroDynamics for damages, holding that Kelly was not made aware of the possibility of a tail stall after having vortex generators installed on his aircraft."

Previous NTSB finding: "There was no guidance provided by Micro AeroDynamics on how to determine adverse effect or how to conduct a subjective evaluation flight test. The manufacturer provided no information on how the slow flight characteristics would change what is published in the POM."

Gary

And this just proves why 10,000 lawyers at the bottom of the ocean is classified as a good start. Pilot is conducting slow flight and stall testing STUPID low to the ground and it's not his fault? What ever happened to doing testing 2-3 mistakes high? I fail to see how a guy with those ratings could not "recognize" a stall and know to lower the nose and add power.
 
Nothing makes sense these days. Every day something in the news is even more stupid than the the new record set the day before.
 
Back
Top