Oops, darn it...

[Anne]

FlipFlop has gone on to other pursuits, and SJ is so busy these days. I'm going to continue the tradition of posting the NTSB preliminary reports of our aviation mishaps. The purpose is as always: Figure out what went wrong and learn from it.

Please, no politics, and keep the speculation to a minimum. Some of these folks we know and some we don't. Those we know will eventually post their version of the mishap, and hopefully the rest of us will learn from that.

So, here we go:


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Regis#: 999JV Make/Model: PA18 Description: PA-18 Super Cub (L-18C, L-21, U-7)
Date: 05/10/2012 Time: 0215

Event Type: Incident Highest Injury: None Mid Air: N Missing: N

LOCATION City: GULKANA State: AK Country: US

DESCRIPTION WHILE ON TAKEOFF THE AIRCRAFT EXPERIENCED A THUMP. AFTER LANDING IT WAS DISCOVERED THERE WAS RUDDER DAMAGE.

INJURY DATA
Total Fatal: 0
# Crew: 0 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
# Pass: 0 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
# Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:

OTHER DATA Activity: Pleasure Phase: Take-off Operation: OTHER

FAA FSDO: ANCHORAGE, AK (AL03) Entry date: 05/11/2012

 

[tempdoug]

Remember baloney is baloney no matter how thin you slice it, please let us speculate.

 

[Cub@H20]

DESCRIPTION WHILE ON TAKEOFF THE AIRCRAFT EXPERIENCED A THUMP. AFTER LANDING IT WAS DISCOVERED THERE WAS RUDDER DAMAGE

This is a stretch if this damage is considered reportable as defined under NTSB 830 Regs. Gary

 

[cubscout]

Anne, thanks for picking this up: I learn a lot from these postings.

Thanks. cubscout

 

[WindOnHisNose]

Thanks for doing this, Anne. Very helpful.

Randy

 

[mvivion]

DESCRIPTION WHILE ON TAKEOFF THE AIRCRAFT EXPERIENCED A THUMP. AFTER LANDING IT WAS DISCOVERED THERE WAS RUDDER DAMAGE

This is a stretch if this damage is considered reportable as defined under NTSB 830 Regs. Gary

Nope, read NTSB 830: Any damage to a control surface is there, I believe.

MTV

 

[mike mcs repair]

Nope, read NTSB 830: Any damage to a control surface is there, I believe.

MTV

I think the word BALLANCED is in that. BALLANCED as in a Cessna control with WEIGHTS...... Is how I have always read it....

 

[cubflier]

I think the word BALLANCED is in that. BALLANCED as in a Cessna control with WEIGHTS...... Is how I have always read it....

Otherwise, I'm way behind in reporting the hell I have put my tail feathers through.

Jerry

 

[Anne]

Remember baloney is baloney no matter how thin you slice it, please let us speculate.

Okay, but please keep it constructive, and not personal. Everyone seems to already know this, but it's about the only ground rule I could think of, so there it is.

Anne.

 

[aktango58]

:lol:And I thought that gravity was the only rule...:lol:

Thank you Anne for taking this up!

 

[Bill Rusk]

Thank you Anne.

Bill

 

[Anne]

You're welcome, everyone! But since I'm basically lazy, I hope y'all fly safe so I don't have to post many more of these reports.

Anne.

 

[Anne]

A couple of reports, no injuries, not Supercubs, but close cousins:


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Notice created 5/14/2012 Notice 7
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IDENTIFICATION
Regis#: 278JB Make/Model: PA12 Description: PA-12 Super Cruiser
Date: 05/12/2012 Time: 2255 Event Type: Accident
Highest Injury: None Mid Air: N Missing: N
Damage: Substantial

LOCATION City: IDAHO FALLS State: ID Country: US

DESCRIPTION
AIRCRAFT ON LANDING, GROUND LOOPED, IDAHO FALLS, ID

INJURY DATA
Total Fatal: 0
# Crew: 1 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk: 0
# Pass: 1 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk: 0
# Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk: 0

OTHER DATA
Activity: Pleasure Phase: Landing Operation: OTHER

FAA FSDO: SALT LAKE CITY, UT (NM07) Entry date: 05/14/2012


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Notice created 5/14/2012 Notice 26
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IDENTIFICATION
Regis#: 98568 Make/Model: J3 Description: J-3 Cub (L-4, NE)
Date: 05/13/2012 Time: 2103 Event Type: Incident
Highest Injury: None Mid Air: N Missing: N
Damage: Unknown

LOCATION
City: LAKE ARIEL State: PA Country: US

DESCRIPTION
AIRCRAFT FORCE LANDED IN A FIELD, NEAR LAKE ARIEL, WAYNE COUNTY, PA

INJURY DATA
Total Fatal: 0
# Crew: 1 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk: 1
# Pass: 1 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk: 1
# Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk: 0

OTHER DATA
Activity: Unknown Phase: Landing Operation: OTHER

FAA FSDO: ALLENTOWN, PA (EA05) Entry date: 05/14/2012

 

[Anne]

It's like a SuperCub, a Maule M7, and it was pretty close to home (for me):


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Notice created 5/16/2012 Notice 1
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IDENTIFICATION
Regis#: 420RP Make/Model: M7 Description: M-7-235, MT-7, MX-7-160/180/235, MXT-7-1
Date: 05/13/2012 Time: 2303
Event Type: Accident Highest Injury: Minor Mid Air: N Missing: N
Damage: Substantial

LOCATION
City: HANOVER State: MI Country: US

DESCRIPTION
AIRCRAFT ON A FORCED LANDING, STRUCK A TREE AND CRASHED ONTO THE LAKE, HANOVER, MI

INJURY DATA
Total Fatal: 0
# Crew: 1 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
# Pass: 1 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 1 Unk:
# Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:

OTHER DATA
Activity: Pleasure Phase: Landing Operation: OTHER

FAA FSDO: DETROIT, MI (GL23) Entry date: 05/16/2012

 

[slackass]

Unless there is still ice on the lake shouldn't that be crashed "into" the lake?

 

[Anne]

Whatever you think of Maules & Maule-drivers, we can learn from their mistakes. The airplane is registered in NY, but the accident happened in Utah, long way from home.


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Notice created 5/18/2012 Notice 4
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IDENTIFICATION
Regis#: 7ZF Make/Model: M7 Description: M-7-235, MT-7, MX-7-160/180/235, MXT-7-1
Date: 05/06/2012 Time: 2130
Event Type: Accident Highest Injury: None Mid Air: N Missing: N
Damage: Substantial

LOCATION
City: BRIGHAM CITY State: UT Country: US

DESCRIPTION
AIRCRAFT ON LANDING, GROUND LOOPED, BRIGHAM CITY, UT

INJURY DATA
Total Fatal: 0
# Crew: 1 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
# Pass: 0 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
# Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:

OTHER DATA
Activity: Unknown Phase: Landing Operation: OTHER

FAA FSDO: SALT LAKE CITY, UT (NM07) Entry date: 05/18/2012

 

[SFD9]

That's the first groundloop fatality I've ever heard of

 

[S2D]

Wasn't a fatality-- Crew 1 fatal 0

 

[SFD9]

Sorry, yup I read it wrong. Thanks

 

[Anne]

No SuperCubs, but sort of similar. Memorial Day weekend is coming up and I know everyone has plans to fly somewhere. Please, please, please, be careful, do a real pre-flight (including WX & TFRs), and check fuel and get some more if there's any doubt. Have fun this weekend!


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Notice created 5/21/2012 Notice 9
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IDENTIFICATION
Regis#: 170ED Make/Model: C170 Description: CESSNA 170B
Date: 05/19/2012 Time: 1730 Event Type: Accident
Highest Injury: Minor Mid Air: N Missing: N
Damage: Substantial

LOCATION
City: WINTERVILLE State: NC Country: US

DESCRIPTION
AIRCRAFT CRASHED INTO TREES, NEAR WINTERVILLE, NC

INJURY DATA
Total Fatal: 0
# Crew: 1 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 1 Unk:
# Pass: 0 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
# Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:

OTHER DATA
Activity: Pleasure Phase: Unknown Operation: OTHER

FAA FSDO: GREENSBORO, NC (SO05) Entry date: 05/21/2012


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Notice created 5/21/2012 Notice 19
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IDENTIFICATION
Regis#: 71642 Make/Model: L8A Description: LUSCUMBE SILVAIRE 8A
Date: 05/21/2012 Time: 0432 Event Type: Incident
Highest Injury: None Mid Air: N Missing: N
Damage: Minor

LOCATION
City: MCNEIL ISLAND State: WA Country: US

DESCRIPTION
AIRCRAFT FORCE LANDED ON AN ISLAND, MCNEIL ISLAND, WA

INJURY DATA
Total Fatal: 0
# Crew: 1 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
# Pass: 1 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
# Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:

OTHER DATA
Activity: Unknown Phase: Landing Operation: OTHER

FAA FSDO: SEATTLE, WA (NM01) Entry date: 05/21/2012


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Notice created 5/21/2012 Notice 30
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IDENTIFICATION
Regis#: 9859A Make/Model: C195 Description: 195 (LC-126)
Date: 05/18/2012 Time: 2100 Event Type: Incident
Highest Injury: None Mid Air: N Missing: N
Damage: Unknown

LOCATION
City: TIPTON State: PA Country: US

DESCRIPTION
AIRCRAFT FORCE LANDED IN A PARKING LOT, TIPTON, PA

INJURY DATA
Total Fatal: 0
# Crew: 1 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
# Pass: 0 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
# Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:

OTHER DATA
Activity: Unknown Phase: Landing Operation: OTHER

FAA FSDO: ALLEGHENY CO., PA (EA03) Entry date: 05/21/2012

 

[Brenda K]

Anne, FlipFlop will be happy to see that you've taken over! Thanks Chica!!

I appreciate hearing that a C195 can land in a parking lot, but I have visions of Wal-mart shoppers running for their lives....

 

[Anne]

Parking lots & football fields - I've often wondered, as I fly over them, if they do indeed make a decent emergency landing spot. Hopefully I won't find out first-hand.

One of our favorite types in one of our favorite places, a Beaver in Talkeetna (Rust's):


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Notice created 5/22/2012 Notice 9
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IDENTIFICATION
Regis#: 323KT Make/Model: DHC2 Description: DHC-2 Mk1 Beaver (U-6, L-20)
Date: 05/21/2012 Time: 2212 Event Type: Incident
Highest Injury: None Mid Air: N Missing: N
Damage: Unknown

LOCATION
City: TALKEETNA State: AK Country: US

DESCRIPTION
AIRCRAFT ON LANDING NOSED OVER AND CAME BACK DOWN ONTO THE TAIL, TALKEETNA, AK

INJURY DATA
Total Fatal: 0
# Crew: 1 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
# Pass: 4 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
# Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:

OTHER DATA
Activity: Business Phase: Landing Operation: OTHER

FAA FSDO: ANCHORAGE, AK (AL03) Entry date: 05/22/2012

 

[FlipFlop]

In agreement with Ms. Brenda, thanx Anne... The reports are an excellent educational tool... Keep up the good work... DvD

 

[Anne]

FlipFlop, it's an honor to be taking this over from you. Thanks for starting the idea of a safety thread, and trying to make us more aware of "what's out there." I just wish there weren't as much to post.

Brenda, see you in a week or so??

Anne.

 

[Brenda K]

FlipFlop, it's an honor to be taking this over from you. Thanks for starting the idea of a safety thread, and trying to make us more aware of "what's out there." I just wish there weren't as much to post.

Brenda, see you in a week or so??

Anne.

Sorry Anne, I would love to go, but we're having a lil' graduation shindig at the farm. Have fun!

 

[Anne]

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Notice created 5/29/2012 Notice 30
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IDENTIFICATION
Regis#: 7279K Make/Model: PA18 Description: PA-18 Super Cub (L-18C, L-21, U-7)
Date: 05/28/2012 Time: 0310 Event Type: Incident
Highest Injury: None Mid Air: N Missing: N
Damage: Unknown

LOCATION
City: TALKEETNA State: AK Country: US

DESCRIPTION
AIRCRAFT LOST POWER IN FLIGHT AND WAS FORCED TO LAND IN A SWAMP. TALKEETNA, AK

INJURY DATA
Total Fatal: 0
# Crew: 1 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
# Pass: 0 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
# Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:

OTHER DATA
Activity: Unknown Phase: Unknown Operation: OTHER

FAA FSDO: ANCHORAGE, AK (AL03) Entry date: 05/29/2012

 

[Anne]

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Notice created 5/30/2012 Notice 3
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IDENTIFICATION

Regis#: 3772Z Make/Model: PA18 Description: PA-18 Super Cub (L-18C, L-21, U-7) Date: 05/29/2012 Time: 1900 Event Type: Accident
Highest Injury: None Mid Air: N Missing: N
Damage: Substantial

LOCATION
City: KENAI State: AK Country: US

DESCRIPTION
AIRCRAFT HIT A TREE DURING LANDING. KENAI, AK
INJURY DATA
Total Fatal: 0
# Crew: 1 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
# Pass: 0 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
# Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:

OTHER DATA
Activity: Pleasure Phase: Landing Operation: OTHER

FAA FSDO: ANCHORAGE, AK (AL03) Entry date: 05/30/2012

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Notice created 5/30/2012 Notice 4
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IDENTIFICATION
Regis#: 7511H Make/Model: PA12 Description: PA-12 Super Cruiser
Date: 05/29/2012 Time: 0000 Event Type: Accident
Highest Injury: None Mid Air: N Missing: N
Damage: Substantial

LOCATION
City: PALMER State: AK Country: US

DESCRIPTION
AIRCRAFT FLIPPED OVER WHILE TAXIING ON THE KNIK RIVER SANDBAR. PALMER, AK

INJURY DATA
Total Fatal: 0
# Crew: 1 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
# Pass: 0 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
# Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:

OTHER DATA
Activity: Pleasure Phase: Taxi Operation: OTHER

FAA FSDO: ANCHORAGE, AK (AL03) Entry date: 05/30/2102


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Notice created 5/30/2012 Notice 7
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IDENTIFICATION
Regis#: 25758 Make/Model: J3 Description: J-3 Cub (L-4, NE)
Date: 05/28/2012 Time: 2145 Event Type: Incident
Highest Injury: None Mid Air: N Missing: N
Damage: Minor

LOCATION
City: PAYSON State: AZ Country: US

DESCRIPTION
AIRCRAFT LOST CONTROL WHILE LANDING GOING OFF THE RUNWAY AND STRIKING A PARKED VEHICLE. PAYSON, AZ

INJURY DATA
Total Fatal: 0
# Crew: 1 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
# Pass: 0 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
# Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:

OTHER DATA
Activity: Unknown Phase: Landing Operation: OTHER

FAA FSDO: SCOTTSDALE, AZ (WP07) Entry date: 05/30/2012

 

[Anne]

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Notice created 5/31/2012 Notice 6
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IDENTIFICATION
Regis#: 27928 Make/Model: J3 Description: J-3 Cub (L-4, NE)
Date: 05/29/2012 Time: 1500 Event Type: Accident
Highest Injury: None Mid Air: N Missing: N
Damage: Substantial

LOCATION
City: MCALESTER State: OK Country: US

DESCRIPTION
AIRCRAFT ON LANDING, STRUCK A FENCE, MCALESTER, OK

INJURY DATA
Total Fatal: 0
# Crew: 2 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
# Pass: 0 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
# Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:

OTHER DATA
Activity: Unknown Phase: Landing Operation: OTHER

FAA FSDO: OKLAHOMA CITY, OK (SW15) Entry date: 05/31/2012

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Notice created 5/31/2012 Notice 19
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IDENTIFICATION
Regis#: 11YB Make/Model: PA20 Description: PA-20 Pacer
Date: 05/30/2012 Time: 2230 Event Type: Incident
Highest Injury: None Mid Air: N Missing: N
Damage: Unknown

LOCATION
City: PORT ANGELES State: WA Country: US

DESCRIPTION
AIRCRAFT ON LANDING, GROUND LOOPED, PORT ANGELES, WA

INJURY DATA
Total Fatal: 0
# Crew: 1 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
# Pass: 0 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
# Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:

OTHER DATA
Activity: Unknown Phase: Landing Operation: OTHER

FAA FSDO: SEATTLE, WA (NM01) Entry date: 05/31/2012

 

[Anne]

C'mon guys, this wasn't supposed to be a full-time job!


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Notice created 6/1/2012 Notice 5
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IDENTIFICATION
Regis#: 4895A Make/Model: PA18 Description: PA-18 Super Cub (L-18C, L-21, U-7)
Date: 05/26/2012 Time: 1530 Event Type: Accident
Highest Injury: None Mid Air: N Missing: N
Damage: Substantial
LOCATION
City: BELMAR State: NJ Country: US

DESCRIPTION
AIRCRAFT ON LANDING GROUND LOOPED, BELMAR, NJ

INJURY DATA
Total Fatal: 0
# Crew: 1 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
# Pass: 0 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
# Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:

OTHER DATA
Activity: Unknown Phase: Landing Operation: OTHER

FAA FSDO: TETERBORO, NJ (EA25) Entry date: 06/01/2012

 

[Anne]

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Notice created 6/5/2012 Notice 8
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IDENTIFICATION
Regis#: 9753A Make/Model: C170 Description: 1949 CESSNA 170A
Date: 06/04/2012 Time: 1750 Event Type: Incident
Highest Injury: None Mid Air: N Missing: N
Damage: Minor

LOCATION
City: HOUSTON State: TX Country: US

DESCRIPTION
AIRCRAFT ON LANDING ROLLOUT, WENT OFF THE RUNWAY AND INTO A DITCH, WEISER AIR PARK, HOUSTON, TX

INJURY DATA
Total Fatal: 0
# Crew: 1 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
# Pass: 0 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
# Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:

OTHER DATA
Activity: Unknown Phase: Landing Operation: OTHER
FAA FSDO: HOUSTON, TX (SW09) Entry date: 06/05/2012