Old Rhinebeck plug

[flyrite]

Never been, but the good friend below posted this on a different forum. I know I have seen some here talk about it.
just thought I’d pass the plug along.




From time to time we aerobatic pilots seem to complain about just about everything! Well here is not a complaint but a concern.

This past weekend I visited Old Rhinebeck Aerodrome, which is located in Red Hook, New York. If you haven’t been there or don’t know about it, do yourself a favor and google it or “You Tube” it. They have a large number of WW1 aircraft that are flying and they put on one heck of a show. Loads of old cars, motorcycles and many more WW1 planes, and parts of planes, on display in several other hangars. A "must see" for an aviation buff.
Tell you friends about it, email your acquaintances in the New York or surrounding areas. A GREAT show place for a Saturday or Sunday outing. Let’s help them out with upping their attendance. They are an ALL VOLUNTEER ORGANIZATION!!!!
OH, I almost forgot. You can also purchase a ride in an AMERICAN STANDARD BIPLANE. Great ride. Check that out on their website. OOPS, they even have a super duper replica of the Spirit of St. Louis on display.

Bill Finagin

 

[av8rtom]

Yep! I visited the Old Rhinebeck Aerodrome last month after years of hearing about it. I've been to tons of airshows all over the country and have to say that this one is unique! My wife and son got a real kick out of it too! I thought it was a little corney, but well worth the effort. They flew some pretty interesting airplanes the day I was there (they have quite an inventory and they fly whatever's airworthy today), including a Fokker DR-1 with a castor oil burning Rotary. Also, two aircraft with warping wings were flown (I never saw that before!).
Olde Rhinebeck was on my bucket list for a long time and I'm glad I finally got to check it off..., go if you can!

 

[cubdriver2]

 

[kcabpilot]

I went to this years opening back in June and very much enjoyed it. Yes the show is pretty corny but combined with the wooden plank benches and the smell of burnt castor oil, if it weren’t for all the cellphones you’d almost swear it was 1929. I’m pretty sure this is what a flying circus show back then must have been like right down to the kids chasing the escaped convict in the striped pajama suit into the woods. The airplanes are amazing in themselves but to see and hear them fly takes it to a new level. I highly recommend it.

 

[scubber]

On my bucket list since I started flying 50 years ago. Went on Saturday and was not disappointed. Just disappointed I waited so long. Lite winds . .. so had the opportunity to see "The Spirit" fly. A much shorter takeoff "run" than I was expecting. He landed it slow & short. You'd never know it was a "floater". The knoll on the south end made me think of our farm strip. Almost everything that flew was -3- pointed. It was obvious each "knew" their plane. No where else will you hear the pilot vary the number of cylinders firing. What sounds & sights! I hope they can keep it going.

 

[Hardtailjohn]

Yep, one of the most interesting places I've ever gone! And the crew is really great if they know you're involved in aviation!! I highly recommend it!!! And while you're in the state, go to Hammondsport to the Glen Curtiss museum...it's really something too!!
John

 

[kcabpilot]

Yup I did the Hammondsport thing too, drove all the way around Keuka Lake and tried to imagine what it must have been like a hundred plus years ago. Makes perfect sense when you see the place why he developed the seaplane. Curtiss has always been my personal aviatiuon hero, I don't care what the history books say.

 

[skywagon8a]

.. so had the opportunity to see "The Spirit" fly. A much shorter takeoff "run" than I was expecting. He landed it slow & short. You'd never know it was a "floater".

If you think about it, of course it would be a floater when lightly loaded, as it was when you saw it fly. Imagine how it would fly with a full fuel load if it wasn't a floater when light. The wing had to be able to lift a heavy load from a runway of the 1920s, so would need to depend on the aerodynamics of a long wing.

 

[cubdriver2]

If you think about it, of course it would be a floater when lightly loaded, as it was when you saw it fly. Imagine how it would fly with a full fuel load if it wasn't a floater when light. The wing had to be able to lift a heavy load from a runway of the 1920s, so would need to depend on the aerodynamics of a long wing.

I think Kenny says the sweet spot is with 75 gallons in it so thats what he leaves it at

Glenn

 

[dgapilot]

I think Kenny says the sweet spot is with 75 gallons in it so thats what he leaves it at

Glenn

It’s only got about a 30 gallon fuel tank. Here’s a picture from the day I issued the Airworthiness certificate on it.

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[garyl]

Typical weekend at ORA:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iB5gxCPSQaM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYF627zEAKU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rG_bFwDDGAo

 

[cubdriver2]

Typical weekend at ORA:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iB5gxCPSQaM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYF627zEAKU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rG_bFwDDGAo

Nice job on the videos. In the first one Dan who is doing the announcing mentions going to Australia in 03 for the 100 anniversary of flight at Avolon. I got to go as a grunt. Here's me starting the Curtiss when it had the Hall Scott V8, not to OX5 it has now



And here's Dan flying it. He just hopped it for the first 10 days but on the last day he took it around the patten. We thought he was friggin nut hopping a bamboo plane that Cole had built 50 years ago



Glenn

 

[cubdriver2]

It’s only got about a 30 gallon fuel tank. Here’s a picture from the day I issued the Airworthiness certificate on it.

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Maybe it was 75lbs of lead?

Glenn

 

[Skywalker]

That's 7% of the 2700lbs of fuel carried for the crossing. After watching Ken fly it last year I think I would need a video cam and spoilers to get it down. Lindbergh did it with auto headlights lining the field at Paris.

 

[dgapilot]

Maybe it was 75lbs of lead?

Glenn

Yeah, he started with about 120 lbs. that was way more than needed and reduced it down to about 75 lbs as I recall. I worked with him quite a bit on the W&B issues. Original calculations showed the 120 lbs should have put it about the middle of what we assumed would have been the CG range. We were wrong!

The ballast shelf is on the lower engine mount truss.


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[dgapilot]

Another picture from that day. Pretty much a highlight of my career, having my name on that Airworthiness certificate.


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[hotrod180]

…... Pretty much a highlight of my career, having my name on that Airworthiness certificate.

Who built that airplane?

 

[cubdriver2]

A lot of little hands, including mine. But 99% of it was built buy the guy flying it, Ken Cassens

https://youtu.be/q2r9nvzoBo0

https://youtu.be/XrdkR1YXbJg

Glenn

 

[dgapilot]

Who built that airplane?

A lot of people were involved, but the majority of it was built by Ken Cassens.


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[Hardtailjohn]

I'm pretty sure I talked to him when I was there. Really a nice and very knowledgeable guy!!! It was a basic fuselage then (98 or so).

John