bob turner
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So at 3400, what was their useful load, legally speaking? Two pilots and gas?
Cub junkie said:Sorry, Helio's with tri-gear are just wrong.
Poweroflift, sorry if I offended you. I did not attend to. I have learned a lot from your post, and enjoyed them very much. The guys at flyhelio had most of the info I wanted about the helio turbine courier and have been with the aircraft since 1965. So I made the commit that it's good place to go for helio info. I like this site (supercub.org) a lot.poweroflift said:Just so you know who you are talking with here. I'm a certified Helio nut and have about 1500 hours in the Helio. We were, at one point, going to purchase the type certificates in 1987 when the stock market crashed in October of that year. Had that happened, you would have plenty of new Helio's and a substantial parts inventory. All we can do now is find a way to get that portion going, through the Helio community!!
I'm on the left, by the way in Helio #2514 that was converted to GO-480 in June of 1965 at the factory, it's serial number reflects that of the H250..!!
OK. I have one for my flight sim X-plane 9.45. It took lots of practice to get it to approach speed much less land on the runway ( which I haven't done yet).poweroflift said:cstol,
No offense taken, hey, I can handle a little constructive criticism. Helio check pilot would be Sam Stainton in Erie, CO, he owns N68857 and teaches all mountain flying and cross-wind gear techniques. I know him personally and he does a thorough job showing you what you can and cannot do in a Helio. You will spend at least 5-10 hours just learning the technique for cross-wind gear. You will need at least 50 hours to get insurance. The Helio flies different than any other GA airplane, when you get that in your head you are ready for the Helio!!
poweroflift said:Hi Dave,
A grossed out Super Cub is what the Helio in most cases is empty, and with the brakes locked I got off with no forward roll !
I was wondering about the " no forward roll " statement too. I have gotten a few hours in a light h-295 the past few years, and with a high time pilot demoing we had lot's of forward roll. Maybe a 35 mph head wind?.Dave Calkins said:poweroflift said:Hi Dave,
A grossed out Super Cub is what the Helio in most cases is empty, and with the brakes locked I got off with no forward roll !
I don't understand this.
could you word it differently, please.
Also, "...no forward roll.." ??
Please clarify. Thanks for you input. DAVE
PS I have Mr. Rajay in my pocket, as well.
poweroflift said:You don't fly a Helio like any other airplane period!!
What is your friend doing to the h-391 to make it a "hotrod"?Talkeetnaairtaxi said:I hope you keep the Helio thread going as they are fantastic planes and deserve to have more people know them.
I have no personal experience with a H-391. and have never seen one perform. My old friend and Helio Guru Jim Danish is building a hotrod H391 that should be the ultimate performing Helio courier when he finishes it.
I will make the 9 hr flight in my C185 just to see Jim fly his hotrod H391 when he gets it done. Jim if you read this hurry up and get that project done as we are not getting any younger.
I have owned a H-250, a H395 with the Go480 and a H295, also flown a H800.
I never considered the H391 as it did not have the legal useful load that I needed for my guiding business..
My planes were the primary working tools of my business and had to pay their way. The old saying "performance cost" is true.
So for me a plane that would legally haul more weight than a C-185 and work almost as short of strips as a PA/18 was what I needed.
The H395 with the 3800 LBS GW was the perfect plane for my guiding operation in Alaska and was worth the higher operating cost than a C-185.
The only reason I ever sold my H-395 was the parts availability issue. I had a 130 day operating season and just could not afford
to have down time because of lack of parts availably..
For people not trying to make a living in a short season the Helio is still a good choice.
Jerry Jacques