gross weight eligibility

[mvivion]

And, if it is converted from LSA eligibility to greater than 1320 GW, the FAA WILL have a record of it, in the form of the STC and form 337 that you record in the logbooks. So, if you were to go back to LSA, you'd have to "modify" the logbooks......as well as everything else that goes with that.

MTV

 

[skywagon8a]

And, if it is converted from LSA eligibility to greater than 1320 GW, the FAA WILL have a record of it, in the form of the STC and form 337 that you record in the logbooks. So, if you were to go back to LSA, you'd have to "modify" the logbooks......as well as everything else that goes with that.

MTV

"Modifying" the log books back to LSA will not work. All of the recorded 337s will still be on file at the FAA in Oak City. So the potential buyer for this LSA airplane will only need to call up the FAA records which are available to anyone. Thus any perceved extra LSA $$ value will disappear. And, a possible sale will be gone.

 

[Chris Campbell]

I think the words "[FONT=Arial, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif] has continued to meet the following: " in FAR1.1 is being expanded here to mean more than it was meant to. By the logic of the submitters above an airplane with a gross weight of 1320 on wheels and 1500 on floats would never be LSA eligible once it was installed on floats. It just isn't logical that an aircraft that was once LSA can never be again. it doesn't state that. That conclusion is extrapolated from the criteria. The FAA is known to over interpret. I understand that. However I also know that just when you think something is written in stone, you find out that someone else found a way to accomplish what you were told was impossible. Nothing is written in stone. [/FONT]

 

[Steve Pierce]

I'd go for it Chris.

 

[Longwinglover]

I wonder how this all worked out? Chris ! Give us an update!!

John Scott

 

[mvivion]

I think the words " has continued to meet the following: " in FAR1.1 is being expanded here to mean more than it was meant to. By the logic of the submitters above an airplane with a gross weight of 1320 on wheels and 1500 on floats would never be LSA eligible once it was installed on floats. It just isn't logical that an aircraft that was once LSA can never be again. it doesn't state that. That conclusion is extrapolated from the criteria. The FAA is known to over interpret. I understand that. However I also know that just when you think something is written in stone, you find out that someone else found a way to accomplish what you were told was impossible. Nothing is written in stone.

Well, then, since you don't believe the EAA interpretation, the general interpretation of a number of FAA folks and the guy who worked this for the EAA (who's responded on this thread) write a letter to the FAA Chief Counsel's office asking the question and after a year or so, you'll get a "hard and fast" legal interpretation. Or, roll the dice and go for it..............
MTV

 

[Jim Miller]

I am late to this thread but wanted to add my 2 cents worth regarding the question of going from a higher to lower gross weight on certified aircraft.
My take is the LSA rules were not designed to make sense, but were designed to promote a new "LSA" industry. To this end the FAA and the LSA manufactures
wanted to limit the number of certified aircraft that qualified for LSA. Sure you can take that Champ or Eurcope back to less than 1320 gross and still be
certified, but it can't be flown by a sport pilot.

Jim Miller

 

[N86250]

I am late to this thread but wanted to add my 2 cents worth regarding the question of going from a higher to lower gross weight on certified aircraft.
My take is the LSA rules were not designed to make sense, but were designed to promote a new "LSA" industry. To this end the FAA and the LSA manufactures
wanted to limit the number of certified aircraft that qualified for LSA. Sure you can take that Champ or Eurcope back to less than 1320 gross and still be
certified, but it can't be flown by a sport pilot.

Jim Miller

I agree. The gross weight can be changed back by the appropriate approved data, but the airplane cannot legally be operated by a sport pilot. jrh