1938 Culver Dart
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cubdriver2
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upstate NY
Some of the county map offices have a large copier?
Glenn
Glenn
Dave Calkins
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Anchorage, Alaska
super neat airplane. I hope you keep us updated.
sjohnson
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Boise, ID
There are online services, like this one: https://blueprintsprinting.com (I have no experience with this particular shop)
Or, there are usually local blueprint / large print shops. Just go to Google Maps and search for blueprint.
Or, there are usually local blueprint / large print shops. Just go to Google Maps and search for blueprint.
Cub junkie
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My Moms basement
My local UPS store has the ability to print up to 36" wide and long lengths since the paper is a roll. They work off CD or thumb drive. You gotta tell us more about your Dart. Very special airplanes.
skywagon8a
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SE Mass MA6
Yes keep us informed of your progress. I used to help maintain a Culver Cadet which the owner used to land off airport with it's small tires. Never had the opportunity to go for a ride. I wonder how the wood and glue has held up all these years?
Steve Pierce
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Graham, TX
My local surveryor prints drawings off for me. I have had stuf done at Kinkos as well.
skywagon8a
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SE Mass MA6
The Culver Dart was built by the Moncoupe company. It is approved under type certificate #674. The only place I can find this is in the aircraft listings (old print version) of the FAA and it does not mention the TC's owner. Therefore I assume it is in the public domain. Meaning if you can get a set of plans, you can build any number of them and get them approved. I believe that is how the current Wacos are being built. If you have a friend in your local FSDO, see if he can retrieve the plans from the FAA's archives (if they exist at all?). The FSDO can request plans for anything, but they are not allowed out of the office. You could copy them. I've done this for plans.
Wikepedia says: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monocoupe_Aircraft (if it is accurate?) giving the most recent location as this: https://www.chamberofcommerce.com/b...nt/2015512522-monocoupe-aeroplane-corporation It's a long shot, but at least worth a phone call.
The Dart is described in U.S. Civil Aircraft by Joseph Juptner volume 7 page 258.
Wikepedia says: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monocoupe_Aircraft (if it is accurate?) giving the most recent location as this: https://www.chamberofcommerce.com/b...nt/2015512522-monocoupe-aeroplane-corporation It's a long shot, but at least worth a phone call.
The Dart is described in U.S. Civil Aircraft by Joseph Juptner volume 7 page 258.
Juptner, the source for all things Antique Airplane related. I got volumes 1-8 when they first came out. Don’t remember why I didn’t get 9 at the time, guess as a kid the cost was a big issue and I likely was spending my money chasing girls! Picked up a later printing of volume 9 a couple years ago so I have the full set now.
skywagon8a
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SE Mass MA6
Another possible source if the FSDO can't find them is the Smithsonian Institute in Washington DC. It is my understanding that several/many years ago the FAA cleaned out some of their old files which were long out of date and gave them to the Smithsonian.
A replica of the Dart with a new Verner engine would be a great airplane. https://scalebirds.com/about-1 A lot of work to build the wings.
A replica of the Dart with a new Verner engine would be a great airplane. https://scalebirds.com/about-1 A lot of work to build the wings.
FSDO won't have anything. if FAA still has them it would be the ACO (I think since reorganization it's now called CM (Certificate Management office). It is unlikely they would still have any drawings. Sometime in the 40s the CAA unloaded all the documents they had and moved them to the National Archives. The sad thing is that nothing was indexed beyond X number of boxes from XXX office. Trying to get access to the Archives to sort through the boxes is next to impossible and there isn't staff at the Archives to dig into the boxes to find specific information. If you could identify the office that held the documents at the time and knew which box number they were in it would be a simple request but without that information it is almost impossible. I suppose if someone really wanted to press it you could get your Senator to make the request to allow you to search the Archives but you may end up spending months looking for the needle in the haystack.
skywagon8a
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SE Mass MA6
25+ years ago I had a good friend who was the chief in charge of the maintenance division at the NE region (I forget the office title). He had an old set of drawings brought in for me. Also even longer ago, another friend found all the drawings for the Sikorsky S-39 at the Smithsonian. I guess things are different now.
hotrod180
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Port Townsend, WA
I'm reminded of the scene at the end of Raiders of the Lost Ark,
when they're wheeling the crated ark into a huge warehouse.
skywagon8a
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SE Mass MA6
This is 13 years old, but you may be able to find out who it was who had them on a CD. https://eaaforums.org/showthread.php?2287-Culver-Dart-Drawings
Another place to search: http://aeroflight.co.uk/guide/drawings.htm
A start!
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