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FAA to shut down friday 22?????

The sad part of the situation is, even if all those Government employees get fuloughed for say 60 days, when the budget gets passed they will still get all their back pay, accrued vaction days, etc. So a nice paid vacation, compliments of Mr and Mrs. taxpayer.
 
Don't blame the employees for the politician's fiasco.

While we tend to knock the feds my experience is most (not ALL) are folks just

trying to do their job & get by.
 
Absolutely not blaming the employees. I was only trying to state an observation of how broke the system is. Sorry if you took it wrong, PoP.
 
Hoo; no problem.

I'm thinking the great leaders of the past from BOTH parties are rolling over in their graves.

During the '60's Nuclear War was compared to 2 people in a swimming pool filled with gas

and throwing lit matches at each other.

Now WE are doing it to ourselves.

We didn't get get in this mess overnight & we won't get out overnight.
 
Just because most federal employees are trying to do their job and get by doesn't mean their job is actually important, or that their job even needs to exist. Just means they can't get hired anywhere else.
 
Just because most federal employees are trying to do their job and get by doesn't mean their job is actually important, or that their job even needs to exist. Just means they can't get hired anywhere else.

I disagree, there is always room at TSA!:evil:
 
The sad part of the situation is, even if all those Government employees get fuloughed for say 60 days, when the budget gets passed they will still get all their back pay, accrued vaction days, etc. So a nice paid vacation, compliments of Mr and Mrs. taxpayer.


That is NOT a forgone conclusion at this point! Seems unlikly at best. This is not 1996.
 
@ aktango58

Is that sarcasm? There is no reason why TSA exists. The drones that work there aren't even smart enough to realize that their jobs are a joke (have you seen them? they take their jobs seriously, they think their doing something good for this country, ha). TSA employees couldn't get hired anywhere else, which is why they work for the federal government.

There is always room at TSA, are there is no reason for it. It's comparable to welfare.
 
some airlines quietly began raising fares — on average, roughly by the same amount as the federal taxes. Others did the same over the weekend, and most of the rest joined in on Monday. Story: More airlines raise fares to grab tax savings Alaska Airlines and the discount carrier Spirit Airlines were among the few holdouts, said Rick Seaney, the chief executive of FareCompare.com, which monitors airline fares. In a statement, Spirit Airlines took the opportunity to chide its competitors.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43899311/ns/travel-news/
 
so what have you experienced at the local FSDO level?


http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D9OS66H82.htm

FAA shutdown to continue as Congress leaves

By JOAN LOWY
WASHINGTON
A partisan stalemate that has partially shut down the Federal Aviation Administration will continue into September, stopping airport construction projects and depriving federal coffers of potentially more than $1 billion in uncollected ticket taxes, after congressional attempts to reach deal fell through on Tuesday.
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., initially told reporters that he would be willing to accept a House Republican bill to restore the FAA's operating authority even though it contained cuts in subsidies for rural air service that some Democrats oppose. But he later reversed course after a possible deal with House Republicans had fallen through.
The Senate was due to leave for its August recess Tuesday. The House left Monday.
"Republicans are playing reckless games with airline safety," Reid said in a statement. "We should not let ideology interfere with making sure that Americans' air travel runs as smoothly and safely as possible."
The FAA's operating authority expired on July 23, as well as the authority of airlines to collect about $30 million a day in ticket taxes, meaning the government will be unable to collect an estimated $1.2 billion in taxes if the shutdown continues until lawmakers return to work next month.
Nearly 4,000 FAA employees have been laid off and stop work orders issues for more than 200 construction projects. Air traffic controllers have remained on the job, and Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood has vowed that safety won't be compromised and travelers won't be inconvenienced
Republicans blame Democrats for the shutdown, saying they have been unwilling to accept minor cuts to a rural air services program long criticized as wasteful. But Democrats said the air services cuts were being used as leverage to force them to give in to the House on a labor provision in a separate, long-term FAA funding bill that would make it more difficult for airline workers to unionize.
President Barack Obama implored Congress to settle the dispute before lawmakers leave Washington for the August recess, calling the stalemate "another Washington-inflicted wound on America."
LaHood, a former GOP congressman, conveyed the same message in a series of private meetings on Capitol Hill and phone calls to lawmakers, but was unable to clinch a deal.
With House Republicans gone, the only way Senate Democrats could end the shutdown was to accept a previously-passed House bill that includes a provision eliminating $16.5 million in air service subsidies for 13 rural communities.
The extension bill was necessary because the FAA's long-term operating authority expired in 2007. Since then, Congress has been unable to agree on a long-term funding plan. The agency has continued to operate under a series of 20 short-term extensions.
The labor provision would overturn a National Mediation Board rule approved last year that allows airline and railroad employees to form a union by a simple majority of those voting. Under the old rule, workers who didn't vote were treated as "no" votes.
Republicans complain that the new rule reverses 75 years of precedent to favor labor unions. Democrats and union officials say the change puts airline and railroad elections under the same democratic rules required for unionizing all other companies.
The White House warned in March that Obama would veto an FAA bill containing the labor provision.
 
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I have to admit, it is hard for me to be sympathetic to the FAA when I have witnessed how they have allowed airline maintenance to be transferred overseas. They should be ashamed of themselves (they probably are) for allowing much of the third party maintenance to go unchecked. Yet, a single pilot could tip his Cub over while playing around on a remote gravel bar and they have enough manpower to show up in pairs and milk it out for weeks.

My eye Doctor told me today that his non english speaking patients on welfare get a translator provided by the Gov't. It costs as much as the eye exam. Go figure.
 
really a shame we can't leverage this situation to make the 337 improvements we need while they are not watching then have them grandfathered in after
 
what about the small contractors, doing a bush runway job, get a stop work order, you have people, and all that equipment you brought out/leased... now probably will not be able to finish job before winter..... that could put a smaller guy out of business....
 
wow, a government employee worried about paying bills... it used to only be private employees...

SB, I agree it is a much bigger picture. Just think what the outcry would be if welfare checks stopped.
 
"It really is scary," said Michael MacDonald, a 54-year-old Federal Aviation Administration engineer who lives outside of Boston. "For one week, you think OK, we can handle one week. But now the reality is starting to set in --- this is going to take six weeks or more."

Guess he wasn't going for early retirement, at 55, if he can't cover more than a week without a paycheck !
 
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