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    N strut question

    I'm in the process of rebuilding my PA11 wings. I have them partially assembled and am at the point of trammelling them. When done with this process I have a slight bow in the spar between the number 3 compression strut and the N strut. It is visible when sighting down the spar and the string line confirms it. After much head scratching and triple checking all the trammelling points and measurements I didn't find any errors. I finally disassembled the diagonal on the N strut and now have perfectly straight and parallel spars. The hole on the N strut diagonal is now about 3/16 of an inch out of alignment. I was wondering if anyone has had this experience and if so how the problem was dealt with.
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    [QUOTE=kodiakcub;839452]I'm in the process of rebuilding my PA11 wings. I have them partially assembled and am at the point of trammelling them. When done with this process I have a slight bow in the spar between the number 3 compression strut and the N strut. It is visible when sighting down the spar and the string line confirms it. After much head scratching and triple checking all the trammelling points and measurements I didn't find any errors. I finally disassembled the diagonal on the N strut and now have perfectly straight and parallel spars. The hole on the N strut diagonal is now about 3/16 of an inch out of alignment. I was wondering if anyone has had this experience and if so how the problem was dealt with.

    Try flipping the N strut over it looks like it can be installed either way but it has to be installed the one way.

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    I installed the strut in accordance with the wing drawing. It is also the same as removed .
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    I had an identical problem - bowed spars when trammelling - after much head scratching I found the lower member of the N strut was 1/8" too long. It had been replaced at some time in a former life with an upper member. the lower one allows for the drag wire fittings.

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    One leg of the N strut is longer than the other. The short leg goes between the two wire pulls. Had a Super Cub out of Mexico that was assembled that way.
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    I also found one like that on John Meades S. cub some years ago during an annual. It was corrected when they covered the wings not long after. That one had a cable rubbing so wasn't hard to find.
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    Quote Originally Posted by supercrow View Post
    I also found one like that on John Meades S. cub some years ago during an annual. It was corrected when they covered the wings not long after. That one had a cable rubbing so wasn't hard to find.
    I remember that, the N was inverted.
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    Yes it was.
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    Another good reason to hang wings and control cables before covering.


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    I've checked the N strut installation and it all seems good. The strut is installed correctly by the wing drawing 10625 and I have the short leg on top between the wire pulls. Would anyone have the dimensions for the diagonal tube hole centers? This wing had some hidden damage I found when disassembling and I am not sure if this N strut is correct.
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    What dimension do you need?
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    The distance between the hole centers on the diagonal tube and the overall length of the lower (long) tube.
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ID:	64385 Im having alot of fit issues for basically a new wing. First the N strut now the center aileron hinge doesn't seem to fit. It is hitting the wing attach fitting before the spar. Am I missing something in this installation? After doing some quick measurements I don't see any real differences between the old spar and the new.
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    Don't know if your wing and a pa-18 wing are the same, but Bill Rusk mentioned this in his thread about building a Javron wing. Check post #32 in his topic.

    https://www.supercub.org/forum/showt...l=1#post756644
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    Quote Originally Posted by flybynite View Post
    Don't know if your wing and a pa-18 wing are the same, but Bill Rusk mentioned this in his thread about building a Javron wing. Check post #32 in his topic.

    https://www.supercub.org/forum/showt...l=1#post756644
    Thank you that was exactly what I was looking for.
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