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    Quote Originally Posted by cubdriver2 View Post
    When I was in my 20 we used to work on singer Lou Reeds vehicles. He lived in a cabin in NWNJ and an apartment in NYC. He bought a 1970 IHC Scout with a snow plow from my buddy. We thought he bought it for the cabin driveway. He bought it and kept it in the city with the plow on year round. He said nobody messed with him at a busy intersection when he pulled out plow first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by salex View Post
    ADN today claims that this elitist Beck woman finally got charged for at least some of her life endangering crimes. Wonder why that took so long? Didn't take long for the law enforcement crowd to illegally arrest an award winning principal in the Mat Su valley and force her to a psych evaluation based on false charges! Apparently the rich and politically connected folks get to purchase different speeds and levels of "justice." Nothing new there I guess, but our "American freedoms" seem more at risk than ever. How long before flying itself becomes a greater target through more than just the current FAA generated harassment?
    This is being heard in Federal court. So, maybe we should cut the Troopers a little slack...... And, by the way, in this case, it's obvious they brought this before a Federal Grand Jury, which are not necessarily a fast moving outfit either.

    Sometimes, the wheels of justice turn slowly-actually, MOST of the time, the wheels of justice turn slowly when done right, but with an indictment from a Federal Grand Jury, at the very least, she's gonna spend a lot of $$ on lawyers. And, shown that video, it's gonna be a little tough to deny it happened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mvivion View Post
    This is being heard in Federal court. So, maybe we should cut the Troopers a little slack...... And, by the way, in this case, it's obvious they brought this before a Federal Grand Jury, which are not necessarily a fast moving outfit either.

    Sometimes, the wheels of justice turn slowly-actually, MOST of the time, the wheels of justice turn slowly when done right, but with an indictment from a Federal Grand Jury, at the very least, she's gonna spend a lot of $$ on lawyers. And, shown that video, it's gonna be a little tough to deny it happened.

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    And she will have it hanging over head until the trial.
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    Been Riding two wheeled machines for most of my 70 plus years. Odd how much "respect" I got the day I delivered a State Trooper Harley for an officer. Even took the Greyhound 5 miles to pass me. Of coarse, I enjoyed every minute of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 12Geezer2 View Post
    Been Riding two wheeled machines for most of my 70 plus years. Odd how much "respect" I got the day I delivered a State Trooper Harley for an officer. Even took the Greyhound 5 miles to pass me. Of coarse, I enjoyed every minute of it.
    Hi Dan! Great to see your voice!

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    Not many minor Federal Crimes call for potential imprisonment of up to 20 years.
    In the lower 48, you can’t ever possess a gun if you have a felony conviction on your record. Is Alaska law the same?

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/32

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    Somewhat similar gun issue in Alaska. I have friend who had "felony DUI" conviction (that means 3rd DUI) over 20 years ago. Sober now. He can own and carry a rifle for hunting, but he cannot own or carry a handgun. We wondered if he could get in trouble for being in my plane with me when I had my 454 Casull with me. Never could find a straight answer.
    As for Marian, the bossy boater, she doesn't need a gun. She expects everyone to duck, or bow, to her high caliber political authority anytime she shoots her mouth off. And anyone who knows a bit of Halibut Cove history knows that is no tongue-in-cheek comment. Sad reality that finally manifested in this event.

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    I’ll bet $100 she will spend time as a guest of the government. My guess is in the range of 10 to 18 months followed by 3-5 years wearing a GPS ankle bracelet to monitor her probation. Fine will be in the $10,000 to $50,000 range. Any takers can PM me their handshake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Heinrich View Post
    I’ll bet $100 she will spend time as a guest of the government. My guess is in the range of 10 to 18 months followed by 3-5 years wearing a GPS ankle bracelet to monitor her probation. Fine will be in the $10,000 to $50,000 range. Any takers can PM me their handshake.
    Do you think she will have any USCG boat licenses revoked?

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    She's mentally ill and has local support to document that consistent behavior. Now what's the Court going to do to punish that illness?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tempdoug View Post
    Sounds like an amazing woman, Alaska tough like you would expect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BC12D-4-85 View Post
    She's mentally ill and has local support to document that consistent behavior. Now what's the Court going to do to punish that illness?

    Gary
    The defense of insanity only works if she can prove that, due to mental disease or defect, she was basically unable to distinguish right from wrong and/or conform her conduct in accordance with laws. It is not an easy thing to prove. That she is still able to run a successful business and manage her affairs will work against such a defense. But, remember, I am often wrong.

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    There's no defense for her behavior. I've met a few like her over the last 58 yrs around Alaska. They first ask where you're from and how long you've been here. Then try to fill your world with theirs. None of my business in this case of course. The Court process and discovery will inform as to her mental competence. Opinion.

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    dy·nas·ty "a succession of people from the same family who play a prominent role in business, politics, or another field"

    The smaller the community the more likely this can flourish into negative behavior. I'd say her shrimp boat captaining days are going before the big man or woman.

    “We sleep safely in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by tempdoug View Post
    Gives me a negative opinion of Filson now.... Funny how "guilt by association" works.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Gives me a negative opinion of Filson now.... Funny how "guilt by association" works.....
    Almost every person I have ever met has done some good things. Those same people have all done some not so good things. Same with all the companies I have ever known. Our propensity to discount all of the good some have done because of a misstep (or series of them) has long troubled me.

    I’ve made a lot of mistakes. I’ve done some really stupid stuff. I’m forever thankful to those who have forgiven me - or at least overlooked my failings.

    I don’t know the boat lady, but my guess is she has had some good moments and maybe has done some good things. Do I think she needs to answer for this? You bet.

    I was talking to a good friend on the phone this afternoon. Several times we talked about how different perspectives can be on the same situation (I.e. he said, she said).

    I “associate” with all kinds of people. I hope to be judged by who I am, not by who I know.

    That may or may not work out in my favor…

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    Then this can happen as we age. That's why it's critical to be professionally evaluated and cared for:

    https://www.homecareassistancedesmoi...-parent-angry/

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    It wasn't that long ago that once on the dock the Beaver pilot would have taken care of the situation, in not before.

    Sort of interesting how at times two folks would have an issue and hammer it out...

    not long after they would be friends.

    Since we got where we punish the one that tackles the bully and sets them in their place, we seem to get more bad behavior that takes forever to correct.

    Sometimes things go wrong, and we do stupid stuff. I just hope we always do it by accident.

    My bet is there will be some type of plea bargain that will include loss of USCG license. I can't imagine the Coast Guard likes these types of actions from folks they have said are safe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SJ
    I “associate” with all kinds of people. I hope to be judged by who I am, not by who I know......
    That's kinda my point.... It is amazing how quickly I can apply my opinion of the clearly negative behavior of her to the things she is associated with... Clearly Filson had nothing to do with her behavior.... BUT... it's the REALITY of "guilt by association"... I did not say it was appropriate to assign responsibility for her behavior to Filson, just that it is human nature to make that association.

    A good friend of mine used to tell his kids...."Show me your friends, and I'll show you your future"... The point being, be careful who you associate with, it might rub off....

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    IN OTHER NEWS - There is no defense for the behavior on the video. PERIOD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post

    A good friend of mine used to tell his kids...."Show me your friends, and I'll show you your future"... The point being, be careful who you associate with, it might rub off....

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    Maybe it's all about the friends. If I did what she did, my friends would stop me.

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    Listen to the start of the video...likely a neighbor says "she's lost it, somebody's got to f****** do something about her" And that wasn't the dog talking.

    https://www.instagram.com/p/ChptFJ6psiz/

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    Quote Originally Posted by BC12D-4-85 View Post
    Listen to the start of the video...likely a neighbor says "she's lost it, somebody's got to f****** do something about her" And that wasn't the dog talking.

    https://www.instagram.com/p/ChptFJ6psiz/

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    I read the article and was impressed with what she has done in her life. A lot of us don't like change, progress etc but we must except it. Like Web commented, her friends didn't say anything. Same thing I thought when I watched the raw videos of the police beating the kid in Memphis, couldn't someone in that group have said "hey, wtf are you guys doing?" I wonder about some of the bizarre things celebrities do, do they not have real friends that say "hey, wtf?"
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    https://www.bookbrowse.com/expressio...has-no-clothes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Pierce View Post
    I read the article and was impressed with what she has done in her life. A lot of us don't like change, progress etc but we must except it. Like Web commented, her friends didn't say anything. Same thing I thought when I watched the raw videos of the police beating the kid in Memphis, couldn't someone in that group have said "hey, wtf are you guys doing?" I wonder about some of the bizarre things celebrities do, do they not have real friends that say "hey, wtf?"
    Its called herd mentality, Steve. And, you’re right….it’s not a good thing. But, I’m betting the guy in a “SCORPION Task Force” who says “stop beating that guy” is not going to be popular with his compatriots. That was a task force specifically formed and charged with stopping violent crimes. Three guesses how they were getting that done…..

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    Quote Originally Posted by mvivion View Post
    Its called herd mentality, Steve. And, you’re right….it’s not a good thing. But, I’m betting the guy in a “SCORPION Task Force” who says “stop beating that guy” is not going to be popular with his compatriots. That was a task force specifically formed and charged with stopping violent crimes. Three guesses how they were getting that done…..

    MTV
    Yep, as I watched I couldn't believe no one, paramedics etc tried to render aid. The street light cam video shows about 20 minutes between the beating and anyone doing anything besides walking around. I couldn't do that job, no way. My Dad had a former Memphis police investigator that worked for him. He asked her once why she left the police department. She said she walked into a house where there was blood and brains all over the wall and it didn't bother her at all. She knew then she needed a different career.
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    Every time I read the title of this thread, "harasses a beaver with a boat",
    it occurs to me that there would have been quicker response from the law if it had been a marine mammal being harassed,
    instead of an airplane.
    Try doing that **** around here in the Puget Sound area to an orca & see what happens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by salex View Post
    Somewhat similar gun issue in Alaska. I have friend who had "felony DUI" conviction (that means 3rd DUI) over 20 years ago. Sober now. He can own and carry a rifle for hunting, but he cannot own or carry a handgun. We wondered if he could get in trouble for being in my plane with me when I had my 454 Casull with me. Never could find a straight answer.
    As for Marian, the bossy boater, she doesn't need a gun. She expects everyone to duck, or bow, to her high caliber political authority anytime she shoots her mouth off. And anyone who knows a bit of Halibut Cove history knows that is no tongue-in-cheek comment. Sad reality that finally manifested in this event.
    My brother has a similar conviction. We figured out as long as he didn’t handle my .44 magnum it was OK.

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    Legal team will pull some “more Alaskan than thou” BS and she’ll get probation. Might not do it again however.
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    At least we won't have to pay for her keep
    I don't know where you've been me lad, but I see you won first Prize!
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    Quote Originally Posted by aktango58 View Post
    At least we won't have to pay for her keep
    I wouldn't broadcast that you're not paying federal taxes to the IRS....Just sayin.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by aktango58 View Post
    At least we won't have to pay for her keep
    Unless you taxi in 'her' cove.

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