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    Marion harrasses a beaver with a boat.


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    ARGH!!!
    Had something similar happen to me many years ago. But it was a jet ski that kept weaving back and forth in front of me while trying to take off when on floats.
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    What an asshole!
    There's gotta be some kind of road rage back story to that.
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    If anyone got the registration number on that boat, I'd be talking to the Troopers....

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    One of the owners or the Saltry in Halibut Cove.
    There are other videos of this incident floating around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StalledOut View Post
    One of the owners or the Saltry in Halibut Cove.
    There are other videos of this incident floating around.
    if I was that Beaver pilot, I’d be talking to the Troopers.

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    So what’s the story on Halibut cove? Residents hate airplanes?


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    Marion harrasses a beaver with a boat.

    Yep, good to see a number of reports were sent to the CG.

    More from the rumor mill ;

    - Owner of The Saltry Restaurant attempting to disable a float plane with their boat.

    - …… she has been vocal in the past about not liking float planes or their noise. She has threatened to intervene. Looks like she kept her promise. Now hopefully she won’t keep her 100 ton license or her freedom.

    - The Coast Guard has received multiple reports of a vessel interfering with the navigation of a floatplane near Homer, Alaska on Wednesday. Our top priorities include protecting the safety of life at sea and ensuring responsible navigation on Alaskan waters. We take all reports of unsafe navigation extremely seriously and the Coast Guard Investigative Service is currently investigating the incident. Anyone with information about this incident is encouraged to contact the Coast Guard Sector Anchorage command center at (907) 428-4100 or submit a message at CGIS Tips: https://www.p3tips.com/tipform.aspx?ID=878#


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    Quote Originally Posted by mvivion View Post
    if I was that Beaver pilot, I’d be talking to the Troopers.

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    Not sure about the Troopers, but word on a couple other sites is that the FAA and USCG are involved.

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    I think I would have been a little more pro-active protecting my plane. Second pass close like that and I would be disabling the boat engine.

    In anything smaller those waves could have sunk the plane
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian M View Post
    Not sure about the Troopers, but word on a couple other sites is that the FAA and USCG are involved.
    That constitutes an assault. CG doesnt have teeth. Troopers do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mvivion View Post
    That constitutes an assault. CG doesnt have teeth. Troopers do.

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    Fair enough regarding prosecution. But apparently the owner has a 100 ton license. The CG has teeth in that regard.
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    In one of the videos, it sounded like a prop strike from water. Is that something for them to be worried about?

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    That's not assault, it's intentional endangerment. Could end up being handed over to the feds for investigation and possible fed charges. I'm not a expert by any means but I think that's how it works.

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    https://thesaltryrestaurant.com/private-boaters i dont do covid so i guess i wont be eating there.
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    "Halibut Cove and The Saltry practices Quiet Time until 1 PM on all boardwalks and hiking trails to respect our locals' privacy. Please join us in respecting this time and arrive no earlier than 1 PM" What time was the harassment?

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    Interesting comments from the rumor mill referring to the “HC Elite” not being punished and “like father like daughter”, so I’m guessing this type of activity has been going on for years?


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    But if someone needs medical help or some other help they suddenly like airplanes and helicopters.
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    Last edited by G44; 08-26-2022 at 11:45 AM. Reason: Question answered.

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    https://www.alaskasnewssource.com/20...-halibut-cove/


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    She's quite the artist:


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    I REALLY hope this issue gets some real traction with Law Enforcement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hotrod180 View Post
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    There's no doubt some local history at play there. Typical Alaska types at war with themselves and others...and it's not even winter yet. Hopefully politics and heritage will take backseat to justice.

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    Was that picture one of Hunter's?????
    Nar looks toooo well done to be his?
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    No medevacs, resupply, disaster relief or any other form of assistance before 1:00pm to respect the privacy of the residents.

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    Pretty common around here to have people complain about neighbor's noise. Folks want silence in the 'wilderness' to relax after they shut down the brush cutter, chain saw, wood splitter and outboards... so all of YOU need to be quiet so I am not disturbed.

    I will give a nod, it is usually folks that arrived the last couple of years complaining. Once in a while an old timer gets angry, so folks will give them some slack. This particular situation deserves a couple weeks cooling down period for the boater... after all it is not like boats are exactly quiet either.
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    Good thing they don't have a commercial dumpster emptying service in Halibut Cove. That banging will wake the dead and some that don't know it yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by G44 View Post
    No medevacs, resupply, disaster relief or any other form of assistance before 1:00pm to respect the privacy of the residents.
    One land/business owner putting something out does not make it a unanimous feeling or right to dictate to the the surrounding land owners. Just because she puts it on her website does not make it a rule.
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    Does anyone know if (or how) we will get to find out if our regulatory/enforcement folks (FAA, Troopers, Coast Guard, whoever) are doing anything at all as regards the obviously unsafe (and surely criminal?) activity of the boat driver?

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    According to my local paper this morning Troopers and Coast Guard have active investigations going.

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    I am wondering if we should feel encouraged or not. "Investigations" these days seem to be either persecution of the politically incorrect or protection of the political elite. The other "social media" commentaries on this event indicate that the boat driver is clearly part of the political elite around Homer and Halibut Cove.
    But I have another question for those with experience on floats - Is the supposed "prop strike" sound towards the end - where the boat wake seems to get high enough to have caused such - really a big deal or not? Doesn't function on floats have some level of assumed wave/spray "impact" on prop tips factored into float ops?
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    Marian Beck has been screwing around like this for years. This isn't the first incident. This time got a little traction because the video got posted and went viral. Her father, Clem Tillion was definitely a political player. He was known as the fish czar and had his hands all over the creation of the Alaska Permanent Fund dividend. I wouldn't say she is elite but the family name is/was. Her husband Dave usually keeps her in check. In fact in the video I've seen the person recording says "Where's Dave?" as in someone go get him to shut this down.

    What happens now? Who knows.

    I've been around long enough to know this isn't isolated to Halibut Cove. I have seen guys tear up airstrips, dig trenches and do all kind of other bad deeds to limit access. I can think of a few times people got drug into court but don't recall any jail time. Just scolding and fines with don't do it again orders.

    I doubt there was any damage from wake action in the cove on the prop.
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    Now there’s a name I haven’t heard in a long time. Clem Tillion. Geez, another case among some with those that supposedly had “power” politically and long after their tenure their family members/ relatives thinking their s@#* doesn’t stink and can get away with stuff like this. Take that and $.50 and it’ll buy you a cup of exactly nothing anywhere.
    Apparently in the case of Marian Beck, there’s no clue how the world works.

    Stalledout, your so right about folks limiting access like they “own the place”, though in some cases they do, but far from all. Makes things difficult and in a lot of cases dangerous for others. Sad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by salex View Post
    But I have another question for those with experience on floats - Is the supposed "prop strike" sound towards the end - where the boat wake seems to get high enough to have caused such - really a big deal or not? Doesn't function on floats have some level of assumed wave/spray "impact" on prop tips factored into float ops?
    In that particular case, it is likely the Beaver engine was running at idle RPM. So the slapping of the water would do no harm. However had the rpm been high, there is definite possibility of the water damaging the prop.

    Here are a couple of examples.

    During the getting on the step phase, all the water blown back by the front prop of the Skymaster as well as the spray created by the floats went through the rear prop. You could see and hear the water hitting the blades. That prop was destroyed with just a few take offs.
    A Riviera was ferried to one of my former employers for resale (bank foreclosure). It had a lot less than 100 hours total time since new. All three prop blades were so chewed up they had to be replaced with new. The blades looked like a crosscut hand saw. I was asked to check myself out in it in order to demonstrate it to potential customers. That's another story, an interesting airplane.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skywagon8a View Post
    In that particular case, it is likely the Beaver engine was running at idle RPM. So the slapping of the water would do no harm. However had the rpm been high, there is definite possibility of the water damaging the prop.

    Here are a couple of examples.

    During the getting on the step phase, all the water blown back by the front prop of the Skymaster as well as the spray created by the floats went through the rear prop. You could see and hear the water hitting the blades. That prop was destroyed with just a few take offs.
    A Riviera was ferried to one of my former employers for resale (bank foreclosure). It had a lot less than 100 hours total time since new. All three prop blades were so chewed up they had to be replaced with new. The blades looked like a crosscut hand saw. I was asked to check myself out in it in order to demonstrate it to potential customers. That's another story, an interesting airplane.

    All you have to do is watch a Goose land or takeoff from water, and you’ll realize that bit of spray exposure was pretty minor. Thanks to Lycoming and the FAA, now everyone seems to think if your prop impacts a smallish grasshopper, you are doomed to an engine tear down.

    Not to minimize true prop strikes, mind you, but what was shown here was not a big deal.

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