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Bolivia 4-Place Build

Because of the reinforcing tubes under the rear seats the fuel line routing is challenging.20221102_082030.jpeg20221102_082004.jpeg20221102_081950.jpeg

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I take it the left door gets in the way of running it like a stock Super Cub? Maybe run it under the front seats like Eddie Trimmer does in his left door STC for the Pacer, it mimics a Maule.
 
Yes the left door comes down very low. There may be better ways to do this. Airframes welded in sump points in the belly so we started from those. Looks like Kirk may run them under the left door.

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Left wing is done. Tail feathers on. Control cables hooked up. Brakes and lines in.20221104_165859.jpeg20221104_135258.jpeg20221104_135305.jpeg20221104_135312.jpeg

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DJ, it looks like you’ll be able to use a center stick and not have interference between the stick full aft and the Cessna seats. Is this the case even with full left or right stick throw and full aft? I’ve been wondering about clearance issues with two sticks or a single in the center and Cessna seats on rails?

You're coming along nicely. Keep the updates and pictures coming.
 
This is with the seats all the way forward. I'm about 6ft and I will use the second or third hole back at least. Hole spacing is 1 inch.20221109_083900.jpeg20221109_083911.jpeg20221109_083922.jpeg20221109_083951.jpeg20221109_092831.jpeg20221109_093130.jpeg20221109_093532.jpeg20221109_093522.jpeg

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Wall clearance... I would have liked to push them inboard another inch. Notice the rails do not point straight at the pedals.. These seats ended up 3/4 inch outboard of the Airframes location. I hope it feels natural.20180328_102000.jpg20221109_093734.jpeg20221109_093949.jpeg

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Silly question - is that the standard way Airframes Alaska is doing the brake master cylinders? Seems the whole unit is in the way with them outboard instead of reversed and inboard like standard Cub? My foot would always be hitting the pedal and unit (flying with heels on the floor).
 
Wall clearance... I would have liked to push them inboard another inch. Notice the rails do not point straight at the pedals.. These seats ended up 3/4 inch outboard of the Airframes location. I hope it feels natural


I doubt the offset will bother you. I have over 1,000 hours in the PA-28 which has pedals well offset from seat center. It looks wierd but it doesn't bother me flying it.

I do wonder where you will put your feet with that brake location.
 
Silly question - is that the standard way Airframes Alaska is doing the brake master cylinders? Seems the whole unit is in the way with them outboard instead of reversed and inboard like standard Cub? My foot would always be hitting the pedal and unit (flying with heels on the floor).
I thought the same thing. I remember seeing one of Paul Claus's 2 place Cubs with front brakes only but I think it was offset more.
 
Brake problem goes away with toe brakes - I know, love them or hate them, but they work fine on almost every current production airplane.
 
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Silly question - is that the standard way Airframes Alaska is doing the brake master cylinders? Seems the whole unit is in the way with them outboard instead of reversed and inboard like standard Cub? My foot would always be hitting the pedal and unit (flying with heels on the floor).
If you are used to flying toe brakes, it is a good ideal to fly duck foot (heal inboard and toes turned out) for 50-100 hours to get your body used to that position. You should be landing with the heels on the brakes working the rudder with the balls of your foot, kind of reverse of a Cessna. Once you get used to it it won't matter what you are flying your feet will just do the right thing. DENNY
 
It’s a non-issue. I flew an airframes 4-place with brakes just like this and didn’t think about it vs stock cub. I think the angle of the pic maybe makes it seem worse; I don’t remember the master bodies being in the way at all. But I have long legs and my feet always naturally sit right above the brake and pedal in a cub- I can’t envision how you’d contort to not have your heel over the brake...?
 
-18 with single controls……
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Yes Airframes had tabs welded in this position. I wanted to do something like this with my matco masters.

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The structure wasn't there to make it work. I would have needed to cut out Airframes tabs and add tubes. I surrendered to advice from others who recommended sticking to bolt on options as much as possible for speed.

I really didn't like the look of the Airframes setup after bolting it in but sitting in the seat made it feel okay.

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Used to be a Whelen A555. I had this around with the original Halogen bulb but wanted an LED so this was my $6 idea.

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Admiring the wings for the first time.

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Aileron cables going in.

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The gascolator bracket got twisted up in the accident and I needed a new one. I texted Brian at Steve's aircraft asking if the one Spruce sells will fit. Next thing I knew he had mailed me his custom one for free! The Steve's gascolator is one of the best parts I bought for the Cub after fighting with the cheap leaking "home builders" versions.

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Goofing around. The Becker radio and transponder were a close fit down at the bottom of the panel but everything worked out.

Started on the windshield install today.20221116_110325.jpeg20221116_102832.jpeg

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I'm looking for suggestions for ferrying a C-120 from Coeur D'alene, ID to northern Georgia. Looks like I'll be taking a few days off after Thanksgiving to go get a friend's plane and bring it down here for two aspiring mission pilots to build time in. I'd like to make it fun and stop at some grass strips along the way. It would be neat to meet of few of you and see the areas you fly in if possible. I'll have the owner of the plane with me who still hasn't soloed yet. We will be near gross with fuel and a couple sleeping bags on O-200 power so performance will be pretty limited.
 
I'm looking for suggestions for ferrying a C-120 from Coeur D'alene, ID to northern Georgia. Looks like I'll be taking a few days off after Thanksgiving to go get a friend's plane and bring it down here for two aspiring mission pilots to build time in. I'd like to make it fun and stop at some grass strips along the way. It would be neat to meet of few of you and see the areas you fly in if possible. I'll have the owner of the plane with me who still hasn't soloed yet. We will be near gross with fuel and a couple sleeping bags on O-200 power so performance will be pretty limited.

If you end up taking a bit more northerly route, drop in. I'm in NW SD, right on the MT/SD border, about 60 miles north of the Black Hills. SD33 on the sectional.
 
I am 2 miles north of 1V2 in western Nebraska, east west strip with authentic cow poop included. Drop on in and I will feed you some corn fed Nebraska beef. Brian


Fly Safe
 
DJ
If you need a ride from the airport to Coeur d’Alene, or a place to stay, I’m not very far away from there. And would be more than happy to help if I can.


Bill Rusk
 
Thanks guys it all sounds good. I was thinking the longer southerly route would be a good idea this time of year to avoid getting stuck in a deep freeze if the airplane had an issue, but looking at the chart there is a lot of high ground between Idaho and Texas. Any suggestions?

Happy face when the fiberglass job went ok. Three fiberglass rookies. Jonathan and I were moving too slow. Before we had the second layer of four wetted out, the 200g batch of West system in the mixing cup kicked off. I didn't think we had the hangar warm enough but I guess so. Jeff was working on his project and ran over to help. He mixed (smaller batches) and I think it turned out good. We will see tomorrow.

I ordered some shorter 45 degree tank fittings and they made the tank outlet situation a lot better.20221120_130450.jpeg20221120_130514.jpeg20221120_152457.jpeg20221120_152506.jpeg20221120_152512.jpeg20221120_152516.jpeg

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Glad it helps but remember you saw it on the internet. I'm no pro builder.

Looking at the route down through Salt Lake to Albuquerque and then I-40. Less blizzards but mountain winds and high passes.
 
DJ, my strip just S of Amarillo/I40. I’d feed y’all and put you up for the evening. My strip is on the short side but it can be cheated to make longer. Barry, that you got the Saint tips from, is also close and lives on a longer strip. Holler if we can help.
 
Glad it helps but remember you saw it on the internet. I'm no pro builder.

Looking at the route down through Salt Lake to Albuquerque and then I-40. Less blizzards but mountain winds and high passes.

You could go from Idaho to Cortez, CO, then Santa Fe, NM, and east from there. Save a few miles and it is all fairly low (by our standards) and very pretty. Winds have been light lately.
 
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