PA-18 Kneeboard Checklist (like Checkmate’s 172)

When I got checked out in Beavers in 1979, Bill Fisk asked
what I used for a checklist: I told him GUMP. He calmly said not anymore you don't. I said ok; He told me to add 3 things and it would cover about anything.........
So he went on to add, after GUMP, flaps, Carb heat and Oil/ Pres&Temp. So total of 7. So I memorized it 40 odd years ago , and I NEVER push the throttle ahead : without checking those 7 things......... Same when turning base to final........... It worked for him for 65 years of flying, and served us well so far. He taught me how to "throw" a double bowline knot ( not tie), into a lenght of rope, and The merits of the Clove Hitch, and most of all that 7 item check list.
He said; now you use my checklist "pard" and it will never let you down............... That was 43 years ago; but I thought maybe, it could help some young pilot today?
Gas, Undercarriage,Mixture, Prop and Flaps, Carb Heat, Oil
Pressure/Temp...... I guarantee it.

Here's one for you-- if I knew who originated it I would really like to credit them with a great effort -- should be modified / corrected for your situation -- Part 1:

Part 2:

Yikes!! It's a Cub !

musket said:

Part 2:

AFTER LANDING​
Flaps	UP
Carburetor Heat	COLD
Landing Light	OFF
Transponder	STANDBY
Trim	SET FOR TAKE OFF
Flight Time	NOTE

SHUT-DOWN​
Throttle	1200 RPM
Avionics	OFF
Mixture	LEAN TO CUT
Magnetos	OFF
Carburetor Heat	COLD
Throttle	CLOSED
Master	OFF
Switches	OFF
Trim	SET
Controls	LOCK & SECURE
Hobbs	RECORD

EMERGENCY CHECKLIST​ (Restart Procedures)​
Airspeed	65 MPH
Carburetor Heat	ON
Fuel Selector Valve	OTHER TANK
Fuel Quantity	CHECK
Mixture	RICH
Magnetos	ON
Primer	IN & LOCKED

EMERGENCY LANDING W/O ENGINE POWER​
Airspeed	65 MPH (flaps UP)
60 MPH (flaps DOWN)
Radio Call	121.5 MAYDAY
SQUAWK	7700
Seats & Harnesses	SECURE
Mixture	IDLE CUT-OFF
Fuel Selector Valve	OFF
Magnetos	OFF
Master Switch	OFF
Door	UNLATCH
Wing Flaps	FULL
Touchdown	3 POINT

PRECAUTIONARY LANDING W/ ENGINE POWER
Seats & Harnesses	SECURE
Wing Flaps	10°
Airspeed	60 MPH
Inspect Field	500’ AGL
Circuit Height	1000’ AGL
Radio Call	126.7 PAN PAN
Avionics & Master	OFF
Wing Flaps	FULL
Airspeed	60 MPH
Door	UNLATCH
Touchdown	3 POINT
Magnetos	OFF

DITCHING​
Radio	TRANSMIT MAYDAY on 121.5 MHz, giving location and intentions
SQUAWK	7700
Heavy Objects (in baggage area)	SECURE OR JETTISON
Seats, Harnesses	SECURE
Wing Flaps	FULL
Power	ESTABLISH 300 FT/MIN DESCENT
Approach	High Winds, Heavy Seas -- INTO THE WIND
Light Winds, Heavy Swells -- PARALLEL TO SWELLS
Door	UNLATCH
Touchdown	LEVEL ATTITUDE AT ESTABLISHED RATE OF DESCENT
Face	CUSHION at touchdown with folded coat
Airplane	EVACUATE through cabin doors. If necessary, open window and flood cabin to equalize pressure so doors can be opened
Life Vests and Raft	INFLATE

FIRE!​

​

DURING START ON GROUND​
Cranking	CONTINUE
If engine starts:
Power	1700 RPM
Engine	SHUTDOWN & INSPECT
If engine fails to start:
Throttle	FULL OPEN
Mixture	IDLE CUT-OFF
Cranking	CONTINUE
Master Switch	OFF
Magnetos	OFF
Fuel Selector Valve	OFF
Fire	EXTINGUISH
Fire Damage	INSPECT

ENGINE FIRE IN FLIGHT​
Mixture	IDLE CUT-OFF
Fuel Selector Valve	OFF
Master Switch	OFF
Cabin Heat & Air	OFF
Airspeed	100 – 110 MPH

ELECTRICAL FIRE IN FLIGHT​
Master Switch	OFF
Vents/Cabin Air/Heat	CLOSED
Fire Extinguisher	ACTIVATE
Avionics Power Switch	OFF
All Other Switches	OFF
If fire appears out and electrical power is necessary for continuance of flight:
Master Switch	ON
Circuit Breakers	CHECK for faulty circuit, do not reset
Radio Switches	OFF
Avionics Power Switch	ON
Radio/Electrical Switches	ON one at a time, with delay after each until short circuit is localized
Vents/Cabin Air/Heat	OPEN when it is ascertained that fire is completely extinguished

CABIN FIRE​
Master Switch	OFF
Vents, Cabin Air, Heat	CLOSED
Fire Extinguisher	ACTIVATE

WING FIRE​
Landing Light	OFF
Navigation Light	OFF
SIDESLIP

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Impressive. That's about triple what we used in the 737.

Again, if you need a checklist to turn on the mags and master, I do not want to be in the same airspace.

How about this:

Get in

Start engine (may need to be reversed if no electrical)

Go fly

Land

Shut down

Get out

Now you have a written checklist that should meet ACS BS.


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cub yellow said:

Yikes!! It's a Cub !

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X2 If I had to use that list to fly to a cub I would be forced to take myself out behind the barn and kick my own A$$.

I am digging the GUMP+3.

Wow, that's a huge checklist. Maybe its value is for a review, but not a checklist to I would use for operations. Are you really going to do a checklist if there is an engine failure, I don't think so - this is stuff you need to remember. I use a 6 step checklist that hits on the stuff that can get you into trouble, carb heat on for take off, fuel valve not set correctly, flaps not set. Yes I have taken off with the carb heat on, flaps not set - could make a marginal takeoff a real problem in some of the high altitude and small lakes that I operate from.

The checklist to the left of my GPS was on my dash as delivered from Piper

The thing is, you cannot joke around on a checkride. The examiner knows it is a Cub, and knows it will fly just fine with CIGAR from memory. However, he will lose his DPE if you do not use a serious checklist.
But a long checklist - especially a long emergency checklist - is fraught with pitfalls on a checkride. You need, as one poster commented, a "flow" for the serious emergencies, followed up by the ability to place your finger roughly in the correct spot on the checklist, and state "[engine failure] checklist complete."

It is my opinion that there are only two emergency checklists required on the Cub - "Engine Failure" and "Emergency Descent" - the latter can be part of a "Fire" flow.

The entire checklist can then be on one side of an 8 1/2 x 11 sheet, laminated or loose.

When the checkride is over, you can do what you want, including using a checklist that tells you to turn the master and mags on, and depress the start button, if you want.

But if you do that on a checkride, be prepared to lose your place, or worse, fail to look out the window and maintain situational awareness.

There is a rumor afoot that one of my buddies (a generator of a checklist for the PA-18 only slightly longer than the one posted by Musket above) lost situational awareness recently, and now has to worry about a FSDO conference. I don't know for sure that the incredibly long and detailed before takeoff checklist was at fault, but suspect so, because the guy is a spectacularly good pilot with the possible exception of his OCD for detail.

Your Cub came from the factory with a "BOTH" position on the fuel?

Any checklist will do, and that one is ok except maybe for the FAA put seatbelts on it? But the Cub - even an 18 - can be safely flown with the flaps and trim set inappropriately. It probably won't fly really well if gas quantity were low, or oil pressure had dropped to zero during taxi. That's why I check G for gas, quantity, caps, and ON. But all you have to say is Gas - CHECKED for the examiner.

bob turner said:

Your Cub came from the factory with a "BOTH" position on the fuel?

Any checklist will do, and that one is ok except maybe for the FAA put seatbelts on it? But the Cub - even an 18 - can be safely flown with the flaps and trim set inappropriately. It probably won't fly really well if gas quantity were low, or oil pressure had dropped to zero during taxi. That's why I check G for gas, quantity, caps, and ON. But all you have to say is Gas - CHECKED for the examiner.

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Oops, other than the update, the list is as delivered

I can take/post pictures of the items in my Pilots Handbook when I get home if that helps.

dgapilot said:

How about this:

Get in

Start engine (may need to be reversed if no electrical)

Go fly

Land

Shut down

Get out

Now you have a written checklist that should meet ACS BS.


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EXCELLENT !!
Mine is 3M. Mixture, Master, Mags.............for start and shutdown.

Take off

Check the gas.
Get your head out of your ass.
Double check the gas.

Landing

Check the gas.
Get your head out of your ass.
Double check the gas.

Thanks all.

I got some kicks reading through this and some good insight.

as bob said- much of this is to make the dpe happy on my checkride. I do wish i could see the look on his face if someone gave him a checklist that read “check the gas and get your head out of your ass” but alas it wont be me as my check ride as iT would cost me $600 and i’m pretty sure i woiuld still be a student pilot after.

SuperCub MD said:

Take off

Check the gas.
Get your head out of your ass.
Double check the gas.

Landing

Check the gas.
Get your head out of your ass.
Double check the gas.

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Well the problem with this check list is that it seems to allow flying with head stowed. I prefer:

Cranium - extract from rectum
Fly - like you stole it
Land - like you own it
Cranium - return to storage

frequent_flyer said:

Well the problem with this check list is that it seems to allow flying with head stowed. I prefer:

Cranium - extract from rectum
Fly - like you stole it
Land - like you own it
Cranium - return to storage

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To many big words, I'll never remember that.

But a very good point, now that I think about it, if the only time I haven't had my head up my ass is takeoff and landings, that explains a lot of things.

My check list is a simple question to myself after runup Do you want to die today which causes me to check everything for the third time.