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Thread: Cleveland Double Puck Brake Torque Plates

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    Cleveland Double Puck Brake Torque Plates

    I need a set of cleveland torque plates (Double Puck) for my project. The ones I have dont line up with the atlee dodge gear I bought. I dont think it's the gear.... I think the torque plates are wrong. I bought the brakes second hand and was told they came from a Super Cub..... I guess not.

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    I'm curious if the torque plates have the p/n marked on them?
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    i have a few sets for 1 1/2 gear i know the one set came off of a 18 not sure about the rest
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    1.5" or 1.25" axle gear? The bolt pattern is different between them

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    1.5".... that must be why....

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    Yep, 1.25" gear has a 1/4" bolt 4 bolt pattern with equal (square) spacing. 1.5" gear has a Cessna type pattern that is 4 bolts but spaced in a rectangular pattern. The 1.5" torque plates are 075-13600 and have 6 holes 3/8" diameter that you will need to bush down to 1/4" and use only 4 of the 6 holes. You can use all 6 but it's really not necessary.

    You can of course source them through ABI but they are $257 each. I'm sure a lot of people have old ones sitting around that would cost much less to buy used.

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    Still Looking for these 1.5" Axle torque plates, Happy to trade my 1.25 Axle torque plates.

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    What about the calipers? I would double check the calipers will mate with the rotors. I’m assuming you have 1.5” wheels from Cleveland and 1.25” brakes.
    I would just double check p/n first before changing “only torque plates”

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    Check part numbers

    40-60 wheels compatible with 30-60 brakes 1.25”

    40-75 wheels compatible with 30-52 brakes 1.5”

    Maybe you have just wrong torque plates, but I would check the calipers p/n and wheel p/n before dropping 500$ on torque plates
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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisp33three View Post
    Check part numbers

    40-60 wheels compatible with 30-60 brakes 1.25”

    40-75 wheels compatible with 30-52 brakes 1.5”

    Maybe you have just wrong torque plates, but I would check the calipers p/n and wheel p/n before dropping 500$ on torque plates

    Thanks for the info.... I have 1.5 Wheels & Brakes.... Need 1.5 torque plates only and still looking.

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    If someone has an extra set of 1.25 torque plates lying around. I’m looking for a set, it’ll make ski changeover a bit easier.

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    FWIW besides the bolt pattern difference between the 1.25" & 1.5: torque plates,
    I believe there are different offsets available.
    So the torque plate not only has to match the axle holes, it has to match up with the wheels & rotors.
    My Univair catalog has a breakdown of the different part numbers that make up each wheel & brake kit.
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    I could be wrong here but I haven't seen too many issues with torque plate offset (as long as we're talking "normal" brake kits used on cubs/cessnas). Cleveland plates aren't offset, only the ABI ones for the common 199-71 or 199-62 kits. The ABI torque plates have a dogleg worked into the plate whereas Cleveland just welds the slider pin bushings off to one side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by md11freighter View Post
    If someone has an extra set of 1.25 torque plates lying around. I’m looking for a set, it’ll make ski changeover a bit easier.
    What type of ski/brake setup are you running? I am trying to install LW2500 skis with ABI 30-60A double puck brakes and they interfere with the skis. I think I need a custom torque plate made or go to single puck brakes


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    Most retractable cub skis where designed for the 1 1/4 axle/brake. When people started going to 1 1/2 the tits on the back of the calipers cause problems. If the tit on the back is the issue go to a set of Cleveland 1 1/4 calipers. Sometimes gear has some strange axle spacer that also causes problems. DENNY
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    ABI-30-60's have a little triangle bump in the middle back that is absent on the Cleveland 30-60's. That might be what is interfering on your ski installation.

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    Interesting, thanks for the help, I think you are right because the ABI brakes cannot be installed in the top position, they hit the gear


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