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    I applied for LODA to receive instruction in my experimental aircraft and to give instruction in other experimental aircraft. Application was made 7/9/21 and LODA were received 7/13/21. That's less than three business days. Maybe I got in ahead of the rush.

    Unfortunately each LODA specifies AX as my state of residence instead of AZ. When that's corrected I shall be free, once again, to make my fortune as a flight instructor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by frequent_flyer View Post
    Unfortunately each LODA specifies AX as my state of residence instead of AZ.
    Well it was my mistake in the application email and the LODA faithfully reproduced the address I had given them. Corrected in a few hours by SDL FSDO.
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    Those bastards!
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    I applied for a LODA today - 7/13/21. Got an immediate automated reply email acknowledging receipt. I’m told by a FSDO rep that FAA outsourced the work and response time should be prompt. I’ll update this post when I get something back.


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    Mark Baker addresses this issue in last night's HDHP: https://youtu.be/BAaTix5zTaY

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDWilliams View Post
    I applied for a LODA today - 7/13/21. Got an immediate automated reply email acknowledging receipt. I’m told by a FSDO rep that FAA outsourced the work and response time should be prompt. I’ll update this post when I get something back.


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    My acknowledgement came from DigitaliBiz and my signed LODA from ANC FSDO came less than 3 hours after. I’m impressed.

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    Darn, and we thought we had something to all get pissy over. And here they developed a system that looks like it will work for what they intend to do, and that is to weed out the,
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    Haven’t seen my come back yet. I’ll post when it does.

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    And I’ll post how quickly I get a ferry permit after requesting it. Last year it took half a day. I don’t expect much different this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stewartb View Post
    And I’ll post how quickly I get a ferry permit after requesting it. Last year it took half a day. I don’t expect much different this year.
    And field approvals too. I hope for your sake the Alaska Fsdo’s don’t change. They can not issue them out of the two Fsdo’s around here. Hell they wouldn’t even respond to me when I had a question if you can put a transponder in a airplane with out a engine driven power source.


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    Here’s the latest: FAA will prosecute any instructor who provides instruction in limited, EX, etc planes, even if they didn’t accept ANY money. https://www.aopa.org/news-and-media/...xDJ2zID7HpNSFY

    Apparently, the experience is compensation…..

    Cant make this stuff up.

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    FWIW, here's a snapshot of my LODA. No problem for my instructors. In fact it appears an instructor can get a LODA that's valid in any airplane he's qualified in using the same process. Seems pretty uneventful, at least with respect to experimentals. I don't know anything about limited category rules.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stewartb View Post
    In fact it appears an instructor can get a LODA that's valid in any airplane he's qualified in using the same process.
    Went there, did that, got the LODA, and also posted about it earlier in this thread.
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    I sent the email for my LODA last Friday, and it arrived in my inbox on Tuesday. That's pretty darned quick service from the FAA!!
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    Got my LODA today in my email.


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    For FAA to make such a quick turn around is astounding. That said, it goes to say that this entire fiasco has absolutely nothing to do with safety. My letter simply asked for a loda that would cover me as CFI in every aircraft for which I was rated. Just a paperwork shuffle, no review of experience, no interview, just send an email and get an email back. I suppose they actually checked to see I had a CFI, but nothing more.


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    Quote Originally Posted by frequent_flyer View Post
    Unfortunately each LODA specifies AX as my state of residence instead of AZ. When that's corrected I shall be free, once again, to make my fortune as a flight instructor.
    I hear it's really nice out there in Aoxamoxa, our 51st state.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mvivion View Post
    Here’s the latest: FAA will prosecute any instructor who provides instruction in limited, EX, etc planes, even if they didn’t accept ANY money... Apparently, the experience is compensation…..

    Cant make this stuff up.

    MTV
    Gosh, is this retroactive? I like looking at airplanes, but don't have a CPL. I was thinking about going to Oshkosh... Those C-47s are really neat. But hey, don't they gross out over 12,500? Do I need a type rating? An instrument hood? Black contact lenses?
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    Quote Originally Posted by stewartb View Post
    And I’ll post how quickly I get a ferry permit after requesting it. Last year it took half a day. I don’t expect much different this year.
    I’m hearing from my LIT FSDO contacts (a very GA friendly FSDO) that the days of getting a ferry permit quickly are pretty much gone. Same day turn around still possible - but don’t count on it.

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    I don’t anticipate any problem and the young lady I spoke to at FSDO this morning said it should be simple. If anything delays the process its that FSDO staff is still working from home. They may see some return to their offices in August. I’m a couple of weeks ahead of the game so there’s no rush on my account.

    FWIW, a good friend in Georgia says he got a SFP a couple of weeks ago. Business as usual. Well, as usual as remotely staffed FSDOs can be.

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    Took me 6 days to get my approval from the Denver FSDO.
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    LODA_Template.pdf (faa.gov)

    Here's the fillable pdf you send to the FAA. email address on the first page.
    What's a go-around?
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    LODA received today to instruct in any experimental. Took a week. Not bad - not bad at all. - JD
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    This is slightly off topic, my apologies if it doesn’t really apply.

    if the FAA holds the position that flight time is compensation for CFI’s, what about a private pilot volunteering to fly a tow plane for a soaring club? Wouldn’t the flight time count as compensation, which would require a commercial and class 2?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirt911 View Post
    This is slightly off topic, my apologies if it doesn’t really apply.

    if the FAA holds the position that flight time is compensation for CFI’s, what about a private pilot volunteering to fly a tow plane for a soaring club? Wouldn’t the flight time count as compensation, which would require a commercial and class 2?
    The FAA has long held that flight time is compensation and given soaring re: towing gliders a sweetheart exemption. Private pilots can be paid to tow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreggB View Post
    The FAA has long held that flight time is compensation and given soaring re: towing gliders a sweetheart exemption. Private pilots can be paid to tow.
    I deleted my post. Looks like the rules changed to allow more than originally negotiated by SSA.
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