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My Doc recommends the annual "at home" poop test as an alternative to the probe.
Everyone gets to do whatever they want I was just making those interested aware that there is risk involved in the procedure and it isn't the super greatest thing ever that they claim. Please do whatever you are most comfortable with.
Good. That passes the 'first do no harm' test.My Doc recommends the annual "at home" poop test as an alternative to the probe.
Perhaps tone was wrong, on the other hand it is information that goes against an entrenched created 'norm' so perhaps that tone is required. Of course people that have already had the procedure are going to have the hardest time re-evaluating the benefits. I don't expect many to look into it, and whatever people choose to do is fine by me. I believe, as do others, that it is a practice that has negative at least as often as positive outcomes and no one shares this information as the pro poop chute inspection complex is big on protecting their racket. Imagine making money off a procedure that is recommended to every single person at age 50 there is a lot of money of behind the scoping narrative.Actually, it looks to me like your original post was an attempt to make people feel ignorant for obtaining what most trained physicians will say is a reasonable procedure with acceptable risk based on the statistics. And then you added the grade school reference to butthole surfers which really doesn’t help anyone take your post seriously, like your latest post references anal probing. Whatever your motivation, whether fear of the procedure for yourself or distrust of the “system”, you would likely get a better response by interacting in a more adult manner. But it’s the internet, so please do what makes you happy.
Something to think about with that:My Doc recommends the annual "at home" poop test as an alternative to the probe.
I remember seeing 1 in a thousand as the number of perforations... The 'dreaded' cancerous polyps removed at age 50 would take 50 years to kill most people and they will be dead of something else before then.
Iatrogenic colonic perforations (ICPs) are an infrequent but severe complication of colonoscopy. Globally, the incidence is estimated to be 0.016–0.8% for diagnostic colonoscopies and 0.02–8% for therapeutic colonoscopies [1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10], but considering the increasing numbers of screening, diagnostic, and therapeutic colonoscopies being performed every year, the frequency of ICP is not insignificant [11, 12].I cannot find any information to the numbers above. Would you please post references so people can make informed decisions? Everything you've posted so far seems more like conspiracy theory than science.
"Association between screening colonoscopy and colorectal cancer mortality: In our sample, 24 (1.4%) cases and 120 (3.5%) controls had screening colonoscopy during the observation period. Compared with patients who did not receive endoscopic screening, those who received screening colonoscopy had a 67% lower risk of dying from any colorectal cancer." https://gut.bmj.com/content/67/2/291
"Perhaps tone was wrong" Yet it continues...Iatrogenic colonic perforations (ICPs) are an infrequent but severe complication of colonoscopy. Globally, the incidence is estimated to be 0.016–0.8% for diagnostic colonoscopies and 0.02–8% for therapeutic colonoscopies [1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10], but considering the increasing numbers of screening, diagnostic, and therapeutic colonoscopies being performed every year, the frequency of ICP is not insignificant [11, 12].
https://wjes.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s13017-018-0162-9
You can average that out to agree with your predispositions either way. There is more evidence out there that scoping has a net negative effect on health, those with polyps removed are more likely to develop cancer, etc. As with everything that goes against the mainstream money machine it is well beyond page 5 in search results and there is no convincing people that have bought into the idea. Anyone that has been roofied and sodomized by a medical professional in the name of prevention is unlikely to accept the idea that it might not be a good idea. But for those few with an open mind I suggest they look a little harder. Again I'm not telling anyone what to do the go no go decision is everyone's to make for themselves.
Are we men? Can you not handle contrary information presented with comedy and rhetoric? Rhetoric and comedy have informed people, posting factual links on the internet never has. I only did as there was a direct request. Why do you have a problem with the idea of colonoscopies possibly being a net negative on health? America is one of the only places where it is widespread procedure done on most everyone at 50. Is the rest of the world dying at horribly higher rates of colon cancer?"Perhaps tone was wrong" Yet it continues...
Don't want the test, don't get it, just remember not to complain if you end up with what the procedure is looking to prevent and in the mean time have a nice life.
Are we men? Can you not handle contrary information presented with comedy and rhetoric? Rhetoric and comedy have informed people, posting factual links on the internet never has. I only did as there was a direct request. Why do you have a problem with the idea of colonoscopies possibly being a net negative on health? America is one of the only places where it is widespread procedure done on most everyone at 50. Is the rest of the world dying at horribly higher rates of colon cancer?
Are we men? Can you not handle contrary information presented with comedy and rhetoric? Rhetoric and comedy have informed people, posting factual links on the internet never has. I only did as there was a direct request. Why do you have a problem with the idea of colonoscopies possibly being a net negative on health? America is one of the only places where it is widespread procedure done on most everyone at 50. Is the rest of the world dying at horribly higher rates of colon cancer?