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    Hey folks! We have an esteemed group of Idaho aviation experts helping us out with our next HDHP on "Get Ready for the Idaho Backcountry" This happens on June 9th, all the details can be had here:

    https://www.supercub.org/HDHP/

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    The Big Raffle is back for 2021.

    It has its own information thread.

    The raffle drawing will not be held at the Johnson Creek fly in, but circumstances permitting, I will be there to sell tickets.

    Here is the raffle information link: https://idahoaviationfoundation.org/raffle.php

    Here is the direct link to online raffle tickets: https://idahoaviationfoundation.org/jcraffle/
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    I intend to be there with one Super Cub and two people but cannot find a survey.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Downhill View Post
    I intend to be there with one Super Cub and two people but cannot find a survey.
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    The survey is in the first post of this thread. Here it is again! https://forms.gle/9GsNeYjMqLQfZuPA9

    Thanks!

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    Hey all, I'll look at a keg of Sockeye. I can donate one, order another if you all want but will include that in the cost of meals. Sorry.. I can only afford to donate one. We will be ordering this week though so let me know ASAP.
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    Thanks for the generous offer. Looking fwd to seeing everyone again.
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    Important Update from Fly In Captain Bob:

    Sulfur Creek is ONLY available to us (folks flying in) on SATURDAY for up to 40 airplanes. They are booked on Friday and Sunday, so don't go there expecting to be fed. The are also open on Thursday, but you should make a reservation.

    Garden Valley is having its usual fly in breakfast on Sunday, so that is a good stop.

    Captain Bob is checking on the other options for fly out eating so stay tuned!

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    Danger Will Robinson- Sulpher Creek is available for the Super Cub group on Saturday the 19th not Friday as Steve posted. Serving time will be from 7:30-10:00. Maybe time for a Miracle Ear SJ.
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    Bob never leave it up to amateurs. I corrected it...
    Quote Originally Posted by robertc View Post
    Danger Will Robinson- Sulpher Creek is available for the Super Cub group on Saturday the 19th not Friday as Steve posted. Serving time will be from 7:30-10:00. Maybe time for a Miracle Ear SJ.
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    One of the things we are keeping an eye on are fires. There are already some fire TFR's in the region. You will recall this event used to be in August, but the fires were so bad it was moved to June. Valley County, where McCall and Yellow Pine are located is having an abnormally dry year, so we will monitor this over the next week and hope they get some rain!

    Also this means we have to be super careful about campfires, etc.

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    Thank you for this. I fly smokejumpers out of mccall and we already have jumped two fires in the area in the last week. Things are definitely dry.

    just a reminder, if you see smoke anywhere, TFR or not, please treat it at least like it’s the center of a class D airspace. All fires have what we call a Fire Traffic Area around it, and any smoke could have aircraft working over it or enroute. Keep your eyes open and use your radio.

    hoping for the days off to fly out to this fly-in and meet some of you!
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    This will probably come up elsewhere, and not trying to hijack the the thread, but here's what the FTA looks like. It is NOT a TFR, and it's not regulatory. It's simply a communications protocol for us firefighting aircraft. However, we assume there is one of these over every smoke whether there are resources on scene yet or not. FireTrafficArea.pdf
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    Kodiacmack, this is EXACTLY the kind of info that is helpful. Thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SJ View Post
    Kodiacmack, this is EXACTLY the kind of info that is helpful. Thank you.

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    Yes, but the red circles depicted in that screen shot ARE TFRs, NOT Fire Traffic Areas. Look at Foreflight.....

    Like any other Restricted Area, any aircraft can request permission to enter the TFR. The trick is finding the frequency and entity that can legally provide clearance to enter same.

    Better to stay away....believe me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mvivion View Post
    Yes, but the red circles depicted in that screen shot ARE TFRs, NOT Fire Traffic Areas. Look at Foreflight.....

    Like any other Restricted Area, any aircraft can request permission to enter the TFR. The trick is finding the frequency and entity that can legally provide clearance to enter same.

    Better to stay away....believe me.

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    Mike, in MY screen shot that is correct - those are TFR's NOT fire areas. Here is a "live map" of current fires which gives you a little more: https://idfg.idaho.gov/ifwis/maps/realtime/fire/

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    I feel like I made it clear I was differentiating between the two. Point here being that just because there ISN’T a TFR doesn’t mean that it’s a good idea to go have a look when you see even the smallest smoke.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kodiakmack View Post
    I feel like I made it clear I was differentiating between the two. Point here being that just because there ISN’T a TFR doesn’t mean that it’s a good idea to go have a look when you see even the smallest smoke.
    Right, I just didn't want folks to think that those red circles in the screenshot of the map that Steve posted were NOT TFRs.

    You're absolutely right...if you see smoke, stay well clear. As you well know, it takes some time to spool up a TFR, and in the meantime, there can be a lot of traffic around a fire.

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    Tonight is the night! Amy Hoover, Dick Williams, Jim Hudson, and Fred Williams on the HDHP Talking and answering questions about Idaho Flying this season!

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    Really enjoyed it. Great job moderating SJ.
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    For anyone interested:
    I live in McCall and work at the jump base. I have spare beds and can help with a car time permitting if anyone ends up stuck in McCall. I have that Saturday off and am planning to come out, so if there’s anyone that desperately needs food, gear, gas, parts, etc. I’ll do what I can. You can pm me for my phone number. Looking forward to this!
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    I’m gonna echo the fire danger comments from above. An exceptionally hot spring which tanked the snowpack is causing a lot of hand-wringing. This may not be the very best year for getting too spicy on strips you’re not terribly familiar with. Also, keep them campfires contained.


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    The fire danger in most of the west is real... Forests are closing everywhere in the west and I suspect we are just getting to JC in time. Something for all of us to be thinking about. Winifred is green and cool but with 100 degrees (very unusual) and wind in the forecast, it won't take long to dry it out if that persists. I'll double post this on the Breaks page as well. Ralph
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    Yup on fire danger. On my way home from Johnson Crick. The OUTSTANDING caretakers are taking care to make sure the runway is well watered, but it behooves everyone to be VERY careful with campfires. Put them entirely out if you're not there. Yesterday morning there was a big noise across the crick and road, sounded like firecrackers, then a big crash. A tree falling down. The forest around JC is in highly stressed state.

    That said, everyone enjoy the wonderful experience as I did. [I have learned to avoid large crowds/high traffic in the canyons.]

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    I sent in a survey for two guys but my airplane just went hard down and won't make it. Please correct the meal info.
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    I camped out on a high ridge last night on the way there, and turned back after takeoff this morning, only 100 miles away, as I have been experiencing an unexplained 30+ degree temperature rise in both oil and CHT's on the Rotax, and yes that's after allowing for the ambient temps. A hand held infrared temp gauge shows the EIS is correct, not lying to me, so I guess I made the right decision. Usually cruising at 180-195 oil temps, I was seeing 135, something aint' right.

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    I was hoping to see some activity at Johnson Creek but the web cam has been frozen since Friday morning.

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    We have had quite the trip so far. Thursday we landed at Kemmerer (the second "er" is slient we learned) in pretty frisky winds. Got some fuel and as we taxied out the tailwheel tire popped. Made it back to the ramp. Wind gusting at least thirty, probably more. No one was at the airport but we called "Dave" from the city and he came out, took me to town to get a patch kit, and had the jack and some tools to get the tire swapped. The current tube and tire was shot so I had an old tube (dryrotted) and a new tire. Patched up the tube and put it in the new tire and we blasted off for McCall.

    As we putted along above the Craters of the Moon I noticed that one cylinder was registering very low EGT and CHT compared to all the others - it was running good, but we decided the best course of action was to stop at KSUN and have a look. Now, a LOT of people would say KSUN (Hailey, ID) is the worst place for a small GA person to stop but not only were we treated fantastically by the staff at Atlantic, the mechanic based at the FBO Drew Hutchinson had not only worked in Alaska for fifteen years on small birds, he also worked for Ray and Laura Jilek in Spearfish. He was eager to help, put some other things aside and was able to investigate thoroughly the next morning. The issue - the main line to the primer manifold was disconnected. So in effect, the cylinder I thought was "bad" was actually the only one that was good as it is the one cylinder without a primer. All of the other cylinders were running hot due to an induction leak - which also explains why my fuel burns were different than they were before. He did some other diligence checking of timing, plugs, and borescoped the cylinder to be sure, but everything checked out.
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    Now, we already knew that the tailwheel tire fix was sketchy at best. I had called ahead to McCall and they had a new tube and tire - they did NOT have one at Hailey. As we taxied about one mile to depart at Hailey, we heard the pop and the familiar sound of yet another flat tailwheel tire. We pulled over out of the movement area and once again Atlantic went WAY above and beyond in spite of dozens of biz jets coming and going they made it a priority to get us taken care of and towed us back to the maintenance ramp - no charge.
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    So, overnight Saturday delivery from Spruce for new tailwheel tire and tube, we decided we would rent a car (yes we found one) and drive to McCall - 5 hours. Now, part of the story I have not yet told you is that we were meeting family in McCall and planning to all fly out and camp at Johnson Creek, so instead, we grabbed one of the last AirBNB's in McCall for two nights and are for the first time seeing more than Ridley's and the Airport. What a cool place.

    Tomorrow morning we will drive back to Hailey and hopefully the tube and tire will have arrived from Spruce, if not, we have one we picked up in McCall as well in the car.

    We are sure sorry to miss everyone and have to give a HUGE shoutout to Lou Furlong and others who have been the boots on the ground making everything go smoothly.

    We do still plan to get to the Breaks... so hopefully we will see some of you there!

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    Ummm, SJ, I have a source for 'flatless' tailwheel tyres that carry the exact same TSO certification as yours (none!). VERY reliable in our cactus-infested operation. PM me. Say 'Hi' to Billy from me and Girlscout. But then you're very resourceful people. C-180 friends had an expensive layover in Hailey last weekend, but turned out OK.

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    Comment from the JC webcam provider: "And sorry about [the JC webcam]. It got hit by lightning a couple of weeks ago, and we’re still waiting for a new router and range extender."
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