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    Quote Originally Posted by 1934A View Post
    Yes, i realize what a bearhawk is... But if it was built as a high power, 4 place cub, you would have a better off airport ship, i'd think. Mainly due to the choices in landing gear. While there are lots of options when it comes to cubs, the bearhawk is pretty limited, unless you build it more like a cub than a bearhawk....
    I am not a welder, but I am 99% sure you could weld on the cub gear attachments during the build and have the rugged cub style gear and a better wing
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    There is a 4 place bearhawk in Utah on cub type gear. Acme aero shocks.

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    Still trying to figure out what the heck to do…

    New moose camp on our radar has 1,000’ and open ends, so not feeling the pinch as much, but I do miss flying a tandem.

    Maybe Stewart will get bored with his Backcountry Cub and sell it to me.

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    Bearhawk kits are 18 months out now if that matters.
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    Have you looked at the Maule that Greg, the long Props and Big Rocks guy, built and flew. He just sold it but man he had it set up with a stick and single front seat centered. Seemed he would take it in and out of 300’ or so no problem. You can see it on YouTube.

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    Saw him out at Big Creek ID few years ago. If it’s the all black one, then yes.

    Quote Originally Posted by algonquin View Post
    Have you looked at the Maule that Greg, the long Props and Big Rocks guy, built and flew. He just sold it but man he had it set up with a stick and single front seat centered. Seemed he would take it in and out of 300’ or so no problem. You can see it on YouTube.

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    Just looked it up, his channel is “Mauleguy”. Just a neat airplane might give you some ideas.
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    In my cub with Hot Rod Exhaust I have a dedicated defrost (rear seat heat moved to the dash). The normal heat box between your feet has a scat tube connected that runs under the front seat to the back, the temp in the bottom scat tube is over 200 degrees. It will melt shotgun shells if you are out wolf hunting and not careful according to other pilots. Even at zero degrees my wife has me only run it 1/2 open. It is pretty easy to keep a cub warm with the right exhaust. DENNY
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    MOAC/Legend Cub it is.
    On the production schedule and working on configuring. Wifey seems stoked, which is a huge plus, and 16 y/o daughter is over the moon and already plotting how to pry it from me (working on her private pilot now).
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    And now, that great big sucking sound as expensive experimental airplane parts vacuum the cash out of your wallet!

    The fun begins!
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    I keep telling myself that it’s cheaper to have a plane that can get in & out of productive gnarly spots few venture than to buy a moose camp.

    But, yeah - engine prices have shot up considerably. Shouldn’t have waffled for six years.

    Slatted wings, Keller flaps, cheaper and lighter and more capable avionics - now more commonplace and accessible. Guess the timing wasn’t so bad! Regardless, I feel extremely blessed.

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    And now, that great big sucking sound as expensive experimental airplane parts vacuum the cash out of your wallet!

    The fun begins!
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    So get prepared for the question many will ask. Do you really think you’ll take a brand new $300K Cub into really gnarly places? That’s what beater Cubs are for!
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    Absolutely. No question about it. I wouldn't even consider this if it wasn't the case.


    Quote Originally Posted by stewartb View Post
    So get prepared for the question many will ask. Do you really think you’ll take a brand new $300K Cub into really gnarly places? That’s what beater Cubs are for!

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    Quote Originally Posted by stewartb View Post
    So get prepared for the question many will ask. Do you really think you’ll take a brand new $300K Cub into really gnarly places? That’s what beater Cubs are for!
    Someone was telling me that about my cub, and then said well you wouldn’t take a brand new truck down a narrow trail scratching it all up would you. The road to camp gets narrow. My truck was a month old when got scratches. I am more careful with my cub after putting all that work into it, but I do still take it to most places


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    Might as well get over the inevitable aging/wear aspects right from the start and focus instead on making great memories. Planes are tools for me, not showpieces.

    Maybe I’ll key my nose paint before the first flight so I don’t worry about scratching it.
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    Denny,
    I’m going with fuel injection, so no carb heat and will have both sides to collect. Am planning on a defrost and trying to get heat toward the baggage section for our dog in winter. Would be interested in hearing more about your system

    Quote Originally Posted by DENNY View Post
    In my cub with Hot Rod Exhaust I have a dedicated defrost (rear seat heat moved to the dash). The normal heat box between your feet has a scat tube connected that runs under the front seat to the back, the temp in the bottom scat tube is over 200 degrees. It will melt shotgun shells if you are out wolf hunting and not careful according to other pilots. Even at zero degrees my wife has me only run it 1/2 open. It is pretty easy to keep a cub warm with the right exhaust. DENNY

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    With FI? Use a Vetterman exhaust. Two mufflers. Two cabin heat producers. Duct as you like.

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    Good point.
    How’s your new pup doing? Has he been ski flying yet this winter?

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    He got fixed two days ago. Doing better than expected, all things considered. No skis on the cub yet. No plan for skis on the 180 this year. Already running out of weeks. Lots of plans, lots of travel.
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    Dedicate one to a high heat box and run it to defrost. Second heat box low in the middle and run a scat tube straight back around stick and under seat works great. Vetterman exhaust steal carb heat off front crossover tube, just use a RV filter set up.
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    Sutton exhaust with the Artic upgrade. It will literally melt your boot if you put it next to the firewall outlet

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    what is the arctic upgrade?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gahi View Post
    what is the arctic upgrade?
    They put expanded metal on the outside of the muffler can rather than studs. Transfers a ton more heat as Bill pointed out. I have melted a few things with it.


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    Melting boots is a good thing? I worry about my defrost temp and my boots are nowhere close to melting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jrussl View Post
    They put expanded metal on the outside of the muffler can rather than studs. Transfers a ton more heat as Bill pointed out. I have melted a few things with it.


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    What orientation is the expanded metal placed in? As cylindrical spacers between muffler and muff walls, or ?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Farmboy View Post
    What orientation is the expanded metal placed in? As cylindrical spacers between muffler and muff walls, or ?


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    No spacers. The inside can is just wrapped with one layer.

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