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    Looking at a 1951- PA 18 to Buy

    I am Looking at a 1951 PA 18 to buy .
    It is a Ranch Cub and has 2200 hrs on it, No Flaps , no electoral , Not sure the motor size ? 120 Hp?
    it is under Annual not sure if it is not his cousin doing it? just looking at it it is used.
    it is a old military trainer and does have toe breaks .He says it fly's great?
    Any idea what something like this is worth? (Range ) lo End
    Are they worth owning ?
    I have a high end Cub 160Hp that is Fat and not sure i want to try to put it on a diet .
    Looking for a cheaper cub to do some off strip work with that I am not as worried about running a stick though.
    IF I do get it should I leave the way it is ,or put other wings on with Flaps ? or just work on my slips ?

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    I own a 1952 PA18 Special with an O-235, no flaps, and with electrical. Great flying machine, and I enjoy slipping it in when necessary. As far as what it is worth, whatever someone is willing to pay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe McMillen View Post
    I own a 1952 PA18 Special with an O-235, no flaps, and with electrical. Great flying machine, and I enjoy slipping it in when necessary. As far as what it is worth, whatever someone is willing to pay.
    Thanks Joe I hear they are good planes I like that it is light
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    They fly nice but like anything with a small engine you know it when loaded or high density altitudes. I see a Super Cub like a new pickup, the first scratch hurts the worst.
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    I truly hate the toe brakes, but otherwise a stock Tango Cub can be a thing of joy for under fifty K.
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    “Tango Cub”?
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    N104Tango...

    N104Tango... with toe brakes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bob turner View Post
    I truly hate the toe brakes, but otherwise a stock Tango Cub can be a thing of joy for under fifty K.
    I learned in a Husky so I am good with tow breaks , what is a “Tango “ Cub ? and I was thinking around 25k thanks for your input.

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    Your Cub is a lot better looking the one I am looking at. Thanks.
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    There’s one just north of me that’s been for sale for awhile. Has 0235 Lyc. I thought 25k would be plenty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sohc427mt View Post
    I learned in a Husky so I am good with tow breaks , what is a “Tango “ Cub ? and I was thinking around 25k thanks for your input.
    I wish I could find a good cub for $25k.
    Catch the fish, to make the money, to buy the bread, to gather the strength, to catch the fish...
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    its a cub not sure how good it is ,motors about timed out and it has been well used. could be a fix up project

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    Tango cubs had no flaps, toe brakes, and a T at the end of the N Number...Tango.
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    Thanks i did not know that.

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    The "Tango" toe brakes are not well thought out. Improperly adjusted they can cause serious problems. That said, the Tango Cubs are usually bargains.
    25 K will get you one disassembled, needing cover and overhaul. Fifty will get you a nice one.
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    Thanks for the info this one is around 25k but needs a full overhauled

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Gervae View Post
    Tango cubs had no flaps, toe brakes, and a T at the end of the N Number...Tango.
    "T" as in trainer, as in USAF training.

    $25K will hardly buy you a used car these days, never mind a complete Cub.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sohc427mt View Post
    Thanks for the info this one is around 25k but needs a full overhauled
    Since you are looking for a "beater" Cub, a "full" overhaul on this one may be overkill and $$$$$. Keep your investment low. Just fix what needs fixing and go flying. A Full overhaul would appear to defeat your purpose. Make certain the engine is in good condition and there aren't any tubing clusters falling out and go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WhiskeyMike View Post
    "T" as in trainer, as in USAF training.

    $25K will hardly buy you a used car these days, never mind a complete Cub.
    You and I shop in a different used car market. Never spent that much on a car.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Gervae View Post
    Tango cubs had no flaps, toe brakes, and a T at the end of the N Number...Tango.
    Google Tango Cubs, several threads here about them.
    "PA-18-105 Special", a buddy of mine owns one.
    They were built as sort of a "pre-military trainer",
    with toe brakes, no flaps, O235Lyc, and low seats so occupants could wear butt-pack parachutes.

    From wiki: "PA-18-105 SpecialSpecial variant built in 1952 and 1953 for the Civil Air Patrol as a trainer with horn-balanced elevators and provision for seat parachutes.[3]"

    Don't recall just how many were built, but I believe the original the tail number on all of them was 3 digits followed by a T--
    hence the "Tango Cub" nickname.
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    Thanks great info

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    Good advice. I have that tendency to overkill everything

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