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    AD is finalized

    I am not sure if this has been discussed or not, but the tailcone and stab AD is finalized
    https://www.aopa.org/news-and-media/...er-inspections

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    These were very expensive blobs of ink for me. I have now become quite familiar with my 180's tail, and consequently have to push back purchase of a new pickup truck for a few months as a result!

    Quote Originally Posted by astjp2 View Post
    I am not sure if this has been discussed or not, but the tailcone and stab AD is finalized
    https://www.aopa.org/news-and-media/...er-inspections

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    nothing new here.... common problem areas known for many decades.... just like adding oil.... consumables...

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    Yes, I probably should have written that these are not issues a seasoned Cessna 100 series mechanic would be surprised to find upon inspection. In my case, pre-purchase inspection missed a couple sections and it was a costly mistake...
    Quote Originally Posted by mike mcs repair View Post
    nothing new here.... common problem areas known for many decades.... just like adding oil.... consumables...

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyR View Post
    ..are not issues a seasoned Cessna 100 series mechanic would be surprised to find ...
    these planes are HOW MANY decades old???

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    Why do i have a feeling each of those pieces is going to be gold plated coming from cessna.
    I may be wrong but that probably won't stop me from arguing about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by S2D View Post
    Why do i have a feeling each of those pieces is going to be gold plated coming from cessna.
    I didn’t realize that gold plating would prevent future corrosion and cracking......
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    Quote Originally Posted by S2D View Post
    Why do i have a feeling each of those pieces is going to be gold plated coming from cessna.
    Bushwheel Bill Duncan sells a repair kit.

    https://www.cessnarepairs.com/

    Not cheap at $3K but way less than the cessna parts.
    And considering the immense amount of BS it must take to get an STC for a structural repair,
    probably actually a bargain at that price.
    A well thought out, common sense solution to this issue,
    I'm betting he sells a lot of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hotrod180 View Post
    Bushwheel Bill Duncan sells a repair kit.

    https://www.cessnarepairs.com/

    Not cheap at $3K but way less than the cessna parts.
    And considering the immense amount of BS it must take to get an STC for a structural repair,
    probably actually a bargain at that price.
    A well thought out, common sense solution to this issue,
    I'm betting he sells a lot of them.
    It's was actually doing quite well even before the AD, a really great fix.

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    So, just got off the phone with Bill Duncan. He said the FAA is mistaken in the AD about the cause of this issue - it's NOT hard landings, it's overloading and turbulence. They see it a lot more frequently on float planes than wheel planes. AD or not, if you have one of these planes, you are going to want to have a look.

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    I wonder why they think they have to know the time on the engine. What does that have to do with anything?
    I may be wrong but that probably won't stop me from arguing about it.
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    Pulled the whole empennage about a year ago when it was a SB. My 180H has over 12,000 hours but no damage at the stab attach points or elevator hinges. Bushwheel Bill's fix does not require new hockey sticks. They are made of unobtanium if you can find them.
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    I remember you doing that, Eddie, and believe that's the way to go on these birds for predictable operation.

    We inspected our J and ended up doing both the vertical and horizontal spars in the tail, plus the LH and RH lower angles (part 40 or 46 in manual, depending on year), which hurt the most. It was a doozy of a job, but like you at least now know exactly what is back there. Wish I had been more diligent when purchasing - probably would have passed on it and waited for a 185! Same price in the end after installing the PPonk

    For what it's worth, our J did hard duty as a Canadian commercial float plane for 6 years, then came back to the States, so probably had the floatplane + heavy loading issues to which Bill refers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eddie Foy View Post
    Pulled the whole empennage about a year ago when it was a SB. My 180H has over 12,000 hours but no damage at the elevator attach points or elevator hinges. Bushwheel Bill's fix does not require new hockey sticks. They are made of unobtanium if you can find them.
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