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    Quote Originally Posted by mike mcs repair View Post
    where do you find these planes on those tiny tires???
    Time MACHINE, about 1956 or so
    Staying alive in an airplane has a lot more to do with mastering ourselves than mastering the aircraft.

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    Time Machine? Did you say Time Machine?
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    Quote Originally Posted by OzAK View Post
    Time Machine? Did you say Time Machine?
    Beautiful ! I think I saw that Travel Air at Phillips field in 1981 on floats. It had a R-985 on the nose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skywagon8a View Post
    Beautiful ! I think I saw that Travel Air at Phillips field in 1981 on floats. It had a R-985 on the nose.
    Indeed, you did see it and yes, has a 985 up front. It’s been in Fairbanks continuously for at least 40+ years. This pic was taken just after restoration and about the time it was presented at the Airmen’s Trade Show in ANC. It’s now back on floats and currently in storage awaiting another summer. The water here is about to get hard for 6-7 months.
    Sorry for the brief thread hijack. Back to the PA-12 build!
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    Not much done on the old Cruiser. Right wing: tank fit, flap bell crank bracket fit and drilled, flap hangars figured out, butt rib relocated. Waiting for new aileron trailing edges to fit everything. Too many projects.

    The new "red" cruiser is doing well. All owners now checked out and our low time pilot tail wheel endorsed. We have more hours in the last two months than the plane had the last two years. The elevator, with out counter balance, is much heavier than my old O290 cruiser and the panel was modified really tall which makes instructing challenging. Lots of cheap fun.

    We have a balanced set of PA18 tail feathers we would like to install and try out. Is there a simple avenue to do install without a 337 or a stand alone STC that does not go with an engine upgrade, etc. I have been searching with no luck.

    George
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    PA-18 tail feathers on a PA-12

    STC SA5-33 Contact Anne Wilbur (907)-250-2641 http://www.fadodge.com/documentation/stcs/

    https://rgl.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgSTC.nsf/0/a5b71d2dc30a1e9786257fed0058db97/$FILE/SA5-33.pdf
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    Quote Originally Posted by skywagon8a View Post
    PA-18 tail feathers on a PA-12

    STC SA5-33 Contact Anne Wilbur (907)-250-2641 http://www.fadodge.com/documentation/stcs/

    https://rgl.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgSTC.nsf/0/a5b71d2dc30a1e9786257fed0058db97/$FILE/SA5-33.pdf
    That is what I was looking for. All my searches were unsuccessful. Is it a Super Cruiser, Cruiser, 12, -12, PA12, PA-12, etc.

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    fs 2003 corporation

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    No real progress on the project (ran) 12, but worked on the new (red) 12 this weekend. Intalled new bungees and pa18 tailfeathers.

    -The red 12 had two large diameter bungees of unkown capacity on each side that were several years old. The plane wollowed on taxi and squated on landing. After contemplation it was desided to install 3 regular 1080's per side. My tan 12 had 3 HD1280's per side and was very stiff. Easy job with two people, except inadequate room for the bungee tool. Will slightly modify the new project fuselage to make things easier. The plane now feels firm on taxi and landing.

    -A pa18 tail STC was purchased for the red plane and the tail feathers from the tan plane installed. The red plane had a stock tail: heavy in pitch when manuvering out of trim and very tail low when on slow approaches. My tan plane had to be trimmed for any power change, but flew better. Test flew with the new tail and there is a large improvement. Can easily be flown out of trim, stick forces are noticably lighter. When trimmed for 55 mph visability over the nose is noticably better, the pitch attitude is lower for the same speed. Worthy improvement for any pa12, regardless of engine installed.

    GM
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