cubdriver2
FRIEND
upstate NY
First time using heel brakes is like the first time you had sex. Awkward at first but after awhile you realize that the controls were in the right location the whole time ;-)
Glenn
Glenn
Does the floor move when you apply brakes?
If you didn’t fall in love with it in the first 30 minutes, I’m not sure there’s anything we can do for you- and yes, heel brakes are awful- my advice would be to donate this sorry excuse for an airplane to some delusional soul who thinks they’re content with 74 mph... Try to forget about this dark time in your life and look for a real airplane- I hear Cirrus owners love their planes; you might give those a look...
Which is why all working/well used Cubs have had the brakes removed...If you have to use brakes in a Cub landing you have screwed up.EV
Stock Cub brake cylinder diaphragms - the flat rubber discs pushed by the brake pedal that move fluid and create pressure - can stretch over time. New ones can be stiffer and offer better performance. Without boosters and when topping off with fluid pull the brake pedal back then fill to top, cap, and release the pedal. Test this first at slow taxi to make sure the system isn't over pressured and brakes too tight. I have no experience with boosters but see them with big tires.
Gary
AIRCRAFT INFO
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Model1953/2007 PA-18 SUPERCUB 160HP WIDEBODY
TTSN-3575 HOURS
SMOH-55 HOURS OVERHAULED BY LYCON
SPOH-NEW PROP TBD
ANNUAL INSPECTION DUE NOV 2009
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GARMIN 250XL GPS/Com
SIGTRONICS INTERCOM
NARCO AT150 MODE C TRANSPONDER
FEATURES
COMPLETE RESTORATION FINISHED NOVEMBER 2007
160HP O-320 B2B ENGINE UPGRADE
EMPTY WEIGHT 1180 lbs ON 26" TUNDRAS (price does not include 26" tires)
GROSS STANDARD 1750 lbs
NEW PROP WITH SALE(BUYER'S CHOICE)
NEW AIRFRAMES INC 4" WIDEBODY STC'D FUSELAGE
NEW DAKOTA CUB WINGS
WELD ON FLOAT FITTINGS
EXTENSIVE NEW PARTS LIST INSTALLED
ALL NEW CONTROL SURFACES AND CABLES
3" EXTENDED LANDING GEAR
800X6 TIRES (26" GOODYEARS or 31" BUSHWHEELS UPGRADED TIRES AVAILABLE)
CLEVELAND WHEELS AND BRAKES
NORTH RIVER BRAKE BOOSTERS
STEVE'S AIRCRAFT GASCOLATOR
INTERAV 50AMP ALTERNATOR
SKYTEC LIGHTWEIGHT STARTER
24 GAL. DAKOTA CUB LR FUEL TANKS
DAKOTA CUB AIRCRAFT HIGH VIS SIGHT GAUGES
HEAVY DUTY F.ATLEE DODGE FRONT AND REAR HEADER TANKS
UNIVAIR FUEL VALVE
F. ATLEE DODGE RIGHT LONG STEP
F. ATLEE DODGE LEFT FUEL STEP
NEW MUFFLER AND EXHAUST SYSTEM
E.I. DIGITAL VOLTMETER
3' METAL BELLY AT TAIL
HOOKER HARNESS SEAT BELTS
REAR MOUNT OIL COOLER
LIGHTWEIGHT UNDERSEAT BATTERY
REAR UNDERSEAT STORAGE
INTERIOR: GRAY HAMMERTONE POWDERCOAT FINISH WITH BLUE/BLACK SEATS
EXTERIOR FABRIC: STITS POLYFIBER FABRIC STC SYSTEM COVERED 2007
EXTERIOR FINISH: RANDATHANE INSIGNIA WHITE AND BAHAMA BLUE STRIPES
No middle ground here? I recently graduated to API tailwheels and no longer need brakes to taxi. And I cannot tell you how many times I have come home with only one brake. In the olden days, brakes were an option - and they really don't work on skis or floats.
Yes, I need them for 150 foot stops if the wind is below ten knots.
Agreed, that’s what I wear when flying in the warmer months. Better feel and subtle control inputs I think.I find that very thin-soled shoes, like minimalist hikers, help a lot with the rudder and brakes. They won’t make your Cub any faster, but having more sensitivity in your feet might make you hate the brakes less.
I find that very thin-soled shoes, like minimalist hikers, help a lot with the rudder and brakes. They won’t make your Cub any faster, but having more sensitivity in your feet might make you hate the brakes less.
I fly both toe and heel brakes. Given it takes more time to instinctively know where the heel brakes are and how to use them and the rudder pedals at the same time, I completely second this. I usually fly in Vans skateboard shoes/boots as the soles are tough but also thin enough to allow the pedals and their precise positions to be felt. I’ve also flown a Pitts S-1 and Cubs in heavier winter boots, but only when I’ve learned where the pedals are and can find them “blind”
On the previous post about inadvertently braking harder in a more sudden stop, I can imagine the physics of this is true, but particularly with the standard Cub/PA-12 brakes I’d be surprised if the brakes alone could generate enough stopping power in the 3 point attitude to generate such a forward body shift, particularly if the lap belt is tight enough, but in a wheeler, or hitting an unexpected obstacle “off airport” a sudden nose down attitude could well cause heavy legs, so again, a snug lap belt should be your friend [emoji41]
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Oh boy. Down the footwear road again. Calling Glenn, where’s the bunny boots?
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Well I’m sure Glenn and Denny and... will chime in. But there’s some heel brake threads..... Toe brakes vs Heel brakes
https://www.supercub.org/forum/showthread.php?t=53829
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