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    Quote Originally Posted by S2D View Post
    Steve.

    Got one question. Early in your presentation you show a wreck because of cabane tab failure. With safety cables. How did that happen. Ive broke mine twice . Probably made multiple landing afterward unknowingly. Were the cables hooked up wrong ?
    Nice presentation, I agree with the message.

    I have the same question. I have had a tab failure. If the cable was installed why did the gear collapse? That is why the cable is there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperCub MD View Post
    Nice presentation, I agree with the message.

    I have the same question. I have had a tab failure. If the cable was installed why did the gear collapse? That is why the cable is there.
    See Post #31 for a possible cause. Another: if the left upper cabane separates and the right tire hits first it'll pull the V away from the left fitting to the extent of the upper safety cable's limits. When the left tire hits it moves it back in place or thereabouts. Stuff eventually bangs around enough to break things.

    Edit: Look at 8:19 and 8:50 of Steve's video. Right shock strut bent/compressed and tip of upper cabane V may be gone (hard to tell on the latter). It wasn't that fitting's first rodeo from all the wear that's apparent prior to severing.

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    Here is the thread all about Bill's cabane fitting failure. Was fun to reminisce.
    https://www.supercub.org/forum/showt...table-gear-cub
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    Quote Originally Posted by daedgerton View Post
    Steve... What a great presentation. My father and I watched it together. We had an "oops" in our PA-12 back on Aug 1st 2019... Still hoping to get it rebuilt sooner rather than later! I commend you for being humble and sharing your experiences with the group. It's nice to know that we're not alone with an "oops" out there!
    I know that feeling well. I tell people "you are not the first and certainly not the last".
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    Dont know how many landings this made this way but it bent the cabane. Didnt see it til i was putting it away.

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    Looks like it stays lubed up.


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    Quote Originally Posted by S2D View Post
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    Dont know how many landings this made this way but it bent the cabane. Didnt see it til i was putting it away.

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    That's what should happen with a tab failure. Just curious why the cable didn't do it's job.

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    I figure a side load on the opposite side.
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    Cubdriver2 should have a photo of a front gear leg broken right off at the fitting. Discovered by another pilot admiring the airplane during a flyin breakfast!


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    Ok, so this morning I felt the tail get into something soft and as I started braking I felt the tail get light, jerked off the power and the brakes. Found a soft spot where I broke through. Pictures don't really show the pile of mud that ended up in front of the tires. Shoveled behind the tires and with a rope on the tailwheel and two of us swinging the tail around the not so stuck tire we got it turned around 180 degrees and taxied it straight out. Should have stuck to the dry gravel of which there was plenty.
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    How would 35s have done. Maybe a little more float?

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    I am sure 35s would gone right through it.
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    Seems you showed me a picture of another plane that did the same thing but wasn’t so lucky. I’d stay away from any red dirt as it has filtered down from Oklahoma and its a trap.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveE View Post
    Seems you showed me a picture of another plane that did the same thing but wasn’t so lucky. I’d stay away from any red dirt as it has filtered down from Oklahoma and its a trap.


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    Yep, you damn tricky Okies. The mud was just a thin layer on top of the wet gravel. Holes filled with water so lesson learned. Face/palm emoji insert here.
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    Did it take power to keep the tail down as the plane came to a stop?

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    No, thetail got light and I took what little power I had in off and let off the brakes.
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