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    I’m guessing the STC reads similar to the Catto STC. Step #1 Remove sticker.......

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    I would imagine the FAA isn’t helpful at all as of lately.


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    Quote Originally Posted by RaisedByWolves View Post
    I would imagine the FAA isn’t helpful at all as of lately.


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    drop tests are the least of the torture induced on a fuselage....

    loaded & turning in soft or tundra is what gets them....

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    Good evening everyone. We definitely appreciate all of the positive feedback around our products. I see a lot of questions pertaining to certifications. We are currently in the process of gaining an STC and PMA for our BlackOps shocks, Stinger tailwheel suspension, and gear legs.

    We’ve compiled all of the baseline drop test data from bungees, all of the drop test data for the BlackOps, Stinger and gear legs and are currently finishing up a lot of the “paperwork” portion. Our engineers and DER seem to think we are a month or so out. I tend to be more conservative and think it’ll be mid-fall of this year. We have a huge meeting tomorrow to review timelines, outstanding needs, etc. I can definitely post here tomorrow once I have a better idea of what we lack to finish up.

    Long story short...we are very close to having an STC for three different products. If anyone has any questions whatsoever please don’t hesitate to reach out at 704-496-9022 ext 2. We’d love to speak with you!

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    Hmm, wonder what the Ranger series is?

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    I’ve been pretty outspoken and critical of acme over the past few years. They’ve left a little bit of carnage in their wake on their way to developing a pretty solid product. And taking it a step further, seeking approval for use on certified aircraft, Considering the limited market and expense involved, no small feat!
    We need innovators. My hats off to you guys for your dedication, persistence and hard work
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    I have the Black Ops on the front and the Acme stinger on the tail. Maybe along with my slats, adding those shocks were the single best up-grade I've made to my SQ. They're clean in flight and dampen extremely well. It's such a huge benefit to literally never bounce when landing on a rough strip or bank. And, I love that they don't seem to cause the airplane to "dart" if during a crosswind take off or, a rough roll out, they become unevenly loaded. I've heard other shocks can do that? Obviously, good technique will get you through with no shocks better that shocks will get you through with **** technique but, man..... my Acme shocks sure allow for some margin when the landings are on really rough terrain and there's no going around. I love them. I think people discuss performance a lot but, safety is a huge benefit in my humble opinion. Also, as pointed out above.... I like that if you ever had a blown seal, the spring will still get you outta there and home. I've heard of another pilot who had a different shock, landed (not even particularly hard) on a gravel island and one of his shocks failed. Lop sided and flat, he needed a new shock to be able to get his bird off that island. Sounded stressful as the river had a daily rise with melt water during the afternoon.....
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    With what Jeff S. mentioned on blowing a seal (Black Ops shock) and still being able to get home, would one still want/need to have safety cables?

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    Still need safety cables to "save" you if your cabane-V fails, for instance.
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    Thanks, I suspected as much.

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    AcmeAeroFab.... Any news on the black ops STC?

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    Quote Originally Posted by daves123 View Post
    AcmeAeroFab.... Any news on the black ops STC?

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    Funny you mention this, I was just wondering about this myself the other day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WindOnHisNose View Post
    Steve, how would I work that from Minnesota? I would like to make this change.

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    I can't believe that you risked porkie ole Santa's life all these years with an old suspension.

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    I remember when Mick Capouch came to New Holstein for the first time with his wife, Rose, and they were sportin' bushwheels. When asked how she liked them she replied "Landing with those Bushwheels was like landing with two big pillows on my butt" ...or something to that effect.

    Well, I'm not telling Santa this, but he has two pillows on his butt, too. Mrs. Claus is too sweet to concur...

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    Quote Originally Posted by cubdriver2 View Post
    I can't believe that you risked porkie ole Santa's life all these years with an old suspension.

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    Ha! Yup, I have Amce's on my old legacy death gear. Makes the 'death' a lot softer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by daves123 View Post
    AcmeAeroFab.... Any news on the black ops STC?

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    Update from Acme yesterday. "We are looking at having everything done with STC and PMA first quarter of 2021. We are in conformity testing and prescribed drop testing with the FAA now. Flight tests to follow and we will be all wrapped up."

    The question was asking for an update on the black ops shocks and stinger certification.
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    I have a heavier SQ3 (PA-12 Fuselage with SQ2 Mods) and it always felt like the bungees bottomed out even just taxiing in grass. Then I installed the Acme Black Ops and cannot get over the difference. Huge fan! Have always been certified until this plane and can't stress how much the FAA stymies creativity with the whole relentless STC certification process. Eric & Matt @ ACME were great.
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    I was out today trying to find rough places to land to really test the Black Ops Gen 4. I can not believe the difference these shocks make, a total game changer. If you have an old shock system do not follow a guy around that has the Gen 4's or you may be sorry, you may even wreck your airplane. I hit stuff that I think this is going to be bad and I don't even feel it.

    I recently became aware that my Acme are Black Ops Gen 3 not 4
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    Spot on Greg, exact thing here in Maine. Im testing out a 6 in extended gear with new Gen 4 black ops on the CarbonCub.Big difference from the gen 3. A lot of stuff you dont even feel now. I was into some rough stuff yesterday, then a bunch of STOL practice, dropped it in numerous times from a couple feet, its a non event. Ive not flown the TK1, but cant imagine they could work better than these. Well done Acme
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    So what is the difference between Gen3 and Gen4? I thought the only difference was the STC? And are you using Acme's new gear legs?

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    Gen 4 is the pro series, they have more travel and some
    Different internals, geared more towards lighter weight flying and stol contest type stuff


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    Thanks. Went on their (Acme's) website and didn't see anything, but I do now see the pro series even though they have not uploaded information about the pro series.

    Good thing I have Gen3 as I'm certainly not a Pro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aeroaddict View Post
    So what is the difference between Gen3 and Gen4? I thought the only difference was the STC? And are you using Acme's new gear legs?
    Yes I bought a set of 6x3 Acme HD gear and a new pair of Gen 4 shocks thru Smiling Toms Cub parts and sales. So far they have been awesome. Acme is sending me a shorter Heim joint and reinforce sleeve because I feel it doesn’t have quite enough positive camber. Acme has been awesome. The only thing I have noticed is I think the powder coat is quite brittle I have some rock chips from the past 3 weeks ok bushwheels But the places I was in would probably do the same thing to painted gear . They are very well built, with a removable axle
    I don’t have many good pix and the gear is in my dads car headed to FL and I am headed there Friday on Amphibs. Acme website has some good pix of the gear, I think mine show in the pixs

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    Dang, sharp looking plane there.

    You probably know this trick for rock chips on the gear, but I have applied the 3M clear auto protective film to my gear and leading edge of the horizontal stab. My poor stab was getting beat up.
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    Hey Santa, go for it! All you have to do is schedule a couple of unnecessary surgeries.
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