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Dont worry about medical renewals for a few months

I called, I asked, and I shared the answer. I hope other guys pick up the phone and ask their FSDOs, or follow the FAA policy and use the AWC process. I was told the electronic request is what the FAA prefers.
 
I called, I asked, and I shared the answer. I hope other guys pick up the phone and ask their FSDOs, or follow the FAA policy and use the AWC process. I was told the electronic request is what the FAA prefers.
I actually did call the FSDO earlier in the week and I am still waiting for the inspector to return my call.
 
The AWC process had been scheduled to take effect on Jan 1 and was postponed thru March 31. Now it's extended again but the FSDO guy said if you want the permit fast to do the electronic submittal. It's probably worth a try.
 
Hey, let's stay focused folks. Avoid the trap. These are uneasy times and can bring out the worst in people. We are all trying to make this situation easier.

Randy
 
I just spoke to the folks at AOPA, and confirmed the conversation with the FAA.

The extension mentioned previously extends to all who act as pilot in command, and is not limited to professional pilots who act as captain, first officer and flight engineers.

Your medical, if it expires within the time period between March 31, 2020 to June 30, 2020, will technically still be expired. The FAA intends to NOT initiate legal action for pilots who expire during this time period.

It is the advice of AOPA for us to contact our insurance carriers to learn of their approach to this decision by the FAA. This reinforces what some have posted on this thread.

I was not able to gain clarification regarding BFRs, maintenance (annual) inspections.

Randy
 
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I invite you to review post #1 dated 8-30-2019: https://www.supercub.org/forum/showthread.php?56355-Tradition-Ferry-Permit-issuance-method-GONE
My FSDO sent that Email: He made it clear "This is being directed from headquarters; we are being instructed to make the utmost use of our designees. To that end, we are also looking into granting the DAR-T’s the ability to perform field approvals. This process is ongoing and may take a while to get all the requirements that they have to meet in place."

Apparently there is more than one headquarters in the lower 48. We already know there are two FAAs. One in the lower 48 and one in Alaska.
Apparently headquarters doesn't communicate with the Houston FSDO?

I was told by my “managing specialist” about 6 or 8 months ago that Baltimore FSDO will be referring ferry permits to me. I’ve also had Field Approval authority for about 5 years now.

Someone mentioned the AWC web site, FAA just issued another delay on that until June.


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I am BasicMed and ok for at least another 3 years. I am not giving dual except in the Stearman, and even there we are being really cautious. Only one guy touches doors, tug, prop, etc, and I (of course) get the left wing.

So, no flight reviews from me until this Covid thing gets better understood.
 
....The extension mentioned previously extends to all who act as pilot in command, and is not limited to professional pilots who act as captain, first officer and flight engineers. Your medical, if it expires within the time period between March 31, 2020 to June 30, 2020, will technically still be expired. The FAA intends to NOT initiate legal action for pilots who expire during this time period......

Not pursuing enforcement action against an expired medical IMHO is NOT the same as extending the effective date of your medical.
Kinda like a cop letting someone slide for speeding vs upping the speed limit.
I have my doubts about insurance companies extending coverage past the official medical cert expiration date.
And what about BFR's?
I usually do my medical & BFR the same month as my birthday, easier to keep track of that way.
I doubt there's many CFI's eager to climb into someone else's airplane to do a BFR these days.
 
Not pursuing enforcement action against an expired medical IMHO is NOT the same as extending the effective date of your medical.
Kinda like a cop letting someone slide for speeding vs upping the speed limit.
I have my doubts about insurance companies extending coverage past the official medical cert expiration date.
+1 I agree. I have contacted my insurance agent twice now and they have no clue what I am talking about. The second time I insisted the contact the underwriter and get something in writing. Very disappointing how the insurance company does not know what is going on in the industry and has not sent out an email to their clients explaining this.
 
+1 I agree. I have contacted my insurance agent twice now and they have no clue what I am talking about. The second time I insisted the contact the underwriter and get something in writing. Very disappointing how the insurance company does not know what is going on in the industry and has not sent out an email to their clients explaining this.

That's at least partially because you're talking to a BROKER, not an UNDERWRITER.

A few years ago, out of curiosity, I asked the folks at AVEMCO (they underwrite their policies) whether they would cover an insured after an accident if their medical had expired. Or, if the pilot's Flight Review had expired, etc.

I found their response to be informative. They replied that yes, they would definitely cover the accident. Even if the pilot was violating a regulation at the time of the accident, and were cited by the FAA.

But, the REST of the story was that they would carefully consider whether to continue to insure that pilot when it came time to renew the policy.

I'm guessing that with a recent accident and your policy expired, with one company refusing to insure you, that it might be hard to find coverage with another underwriter.

Maybe.

I sure wouldn't continue to fly after a medical expired, even if the FAA said they won't enforce. As Randy noted, there's a huge difference between "not enforcing" and "not illegal". You're still going to be illegal if you fly with no medical, unless you're BM or LS, of course.

MTV
 
Contact the underwriter yourself. That said, what the FAA did is lawyer talk BS. They could have simply made them "valid" until this crap is over. Would satisfy everyone. OTOH maybe they think they can't under the law. In that case get congress off their dead asses and fix it.
 
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Contact the underwriter yourself. That said, what the FAA did is lawyer talk BS. They could have simply made them "valid" until this crap is over. Would satisfy everyone. OTOH maybe they think they can't under the law. In that case get congress off their dead asses and fix it.

And, get everything they tell you in writing......talk is cheap.

MTV
 
And, get everything they tell you in writing......talk is cheap.

MTV
Here is the response I received from the broker. The underwriter refuses to put anything in writing and I still don't understand if I have coverage. My interpretation is I don't because I would still be technically in violation of the FARs. I have asked my broker three times now whether I have coverage and they refuse to give me an answer. So guess what, no way am I renewing with them, one of the biggest GA taildragger insurance brokers, after being a customer for like 10-15 years now.

I spoke with an underwriter at AIG and they will not be providing a written acceptance letter.

AIG’s policy wording is already set up to follow the FAA regarding medical requirements..... it also allows for the policy to follow the FAAs ever changing stance due to the ongoing situation.

In short- if you are compliant with the FAAs requirements for the time of the flight, your policy with AIG will follow.
 
AVEMCO is not the cheapest insurance around but they have a great reputation for standing behind you even when you do stupid stuff!!! I tend to do some stupid stuff so they are my go to insurance company.
DENNY
 
I agree with all that. If you can get your broker to state in writing your coverage, you have a leg to stand on.

AIG is making noises about how old I am, and I will probably go back to Avemco this summer. I have been “cheaping out” and saving $6-700 per year. AIG refused to cover me at all on a friend’s airplane, and I have no accidents or violations and over 21,000 hours in the 58 years since I started. “Old” is my sin.

My BasicMed is good for the duration. One of my policies requires a doctor visit once a year, but I am not due until October. That one is for instruction, and I am leaning toward far less CFI activity.
 
Our resident semi-retired MD is down in the United States with his own medical issues. A trip to Juneau will yield a 14 day quarantine upon returning home. So it would sure be Christian of the FAA to let a PA or ANP do the basic med physical. Interesting that the lower level medical personnel can sign me off to take a 80,000# commercial truck barreling down a packed freeway at 75mph but can’t certify me to fly a C150. Oh yeah a back cracking chiropractor can sign off BM in AK too but can’t prescribe medication like an ANP.
 
Just thought I’d share a note from my insurance broker regarding the carrier I have on the Supercub.

Thank you for contacting us regarding your expiring medical. Please see the underwriters note below. Let me know if you have any questions.

Yes, we are in compliance, Due to the Covid-19 virus outbreak it may be difficult or impossible to renew pilot medical certificates. Per the FAA announcement on March 27, 2020 Old Republic Aerospace will not hold any pilot in violation of the terms and conditions of the policy that may require a current and valid medical certificate if the certificate lapsed between the dates of March 31, 2020 and June 30, 2020. Pilots with medical certificates that lapsed between these dates will have until August 31, 2020 to renew their certificates and be in compliance with policy requirements.
 
About time some underwriter stepped up. The rest will surely follow. Hooray for Republic!

here is what my broker says:

AXA/XL says they will do it on a case by case basis, but most of the others seem to be willing to match the FAA guidance on this.


That won’t do you a bit of good in court, of course. You need a statement like Old Republic, above.
 
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About time some underwriter stepped up. The rest will surely follow. Hooray for Republic!

here is what my broker says:

AXA/XL says they will do it on a case by case basis, but most of the others seem to be willing to match the FAA guidance on this.


That won’t do you a bit of good in court, of course. You need a statement like Old Republic, above.
AIG said the thing about 'case by case', so you probably have them, too. What does that even mean? And again, the FAA guidance is you are still breaking the law, you just won't be prosecuted.
 
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