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    Airports with turf and fuel

    I am in NC and working on a list of airports that are either public grass strips with fuel or regular airports with a turf runway. Goal is to travel as far as I can without landing on asphalt. Example is from our home base to SNF or OSH or wherever for that matter. Just a fun project to see what is out there and how far I can go.

    Some examples that I have found but have not been to yet...

    KSMS in SC
    1DS in SC
    GA2 in GA
    6A1 in GA
    KFZG in GA
    X21 in FL
    M54 in TN
    KBRY in KY
    KMWO in OH
    40I in OH


    I have more and will edit this later. Anybody care to add to the list??
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    Fuel not listed but a great chart none the less. Click image for larger version. 

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    Great thread idea.

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    Another great chart.
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    A collection of those charts would be most useful......especially if in electronic form.....hint.

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    Thanks for the info. I have some recurrent training coming up and once that is behind me I plan on entering this info into a google map that I will put in the first post.

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    Rick,
    I think the correct identifier for the Greenville Airport in PA is 4G1, not 4D1 ?

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    KCEV Connersville, IN
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    Starke County, IN (KOXI), near Knox has a 3,000 x 150 ft well-maintained E-W turf strip perpendicular to the main paved N-S runway. It's wide and open enough that you can easily get quite a bit of angle into a cross wind landing. You have to taxi on pavement to get to the gas pumps on the ramp. Has mo-gas (during business hours) and two 24 hr credit card pumps for avgas. Likely right on your way to Oshkosh. Friendly place. Out of town, but there is a courtesy car.

    Plymouth, IN (C65) presently has a long, wide turf area used as a taxiway parallel to the paved E-W runway. Planes with larger tires often use it to land. It can be soft at times. Plans are to tear it up and pave. Be careful of northerly winds, as there's a line of tall trees bordering it on the north side. 24 hr credit card avgas available. Several restaurants within walking distance, but there's also a courtesy car.

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    Florida Turf Runways with Fuel

    X01 - Everglades City
    X60 - Williston
    F45 - West Palm Beach
    X21 - Titusville Dunn
    82J - Pensacola Ferguson
    48X - Manatee
    APF - Naples
    CGC - Crystal River
    X06 - Arcadia
    54J - DeFuniak Springs (Dirt)
    01J - Hilliard
    X51 - Homestead
    X58 - Indiantown
    LAL - Lakeland
    2J9 - Quincy
    X35 - Dunnellon, Unpublished, adjacent 10-28
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    You guys should add your lists to the existing google maps and Foreflight overlay.


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    Airports with turf and fuel

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    Daryl,

    Can you elaborate on your listings of airports? I don't see obvious turf runways for those unfamiliar with each airport - Any grass is good grass on ones like x01 and x60?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Farmboy View Post
    Daryl,

    Can you elaborate on your listings of airports? I don't see obvious turf runways for those unfamiliar with each airport - are all of them of any grass is good grass?

    Thanks,
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    With the exceptions of Quincy (designated grass landing area) and Dunnellon (as noted above), they are all Public Use and have maintained/designated grass runways, except DeFuniak Springs which has a nice dirt runway. Google “Florida Airport Guide” and download the free 2020 PDF that has lengths, fuel availability, diagrams, etc. The guide will also show a number of other great grass strips that don’t have fuel.
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    Thanks Daryl - I was asking for reference as I was just updating the Grass_with_Gas file, that's been passed around here before, but perhaps was forgotten about. I'm not in Florida enough to review the guide.

    90% of all the above airports were already listed in the file, but I did add a few. If I still missed some let me know and I can update it.

    You should be able to download it from here:
    https://drive.google.com/open?id=1vH...fSXeFDGDVtpNlm



    Note for those unfamiliar - This is a .kml file that you can open in Foreflight and save as an Overlay Map in Custom Content. Then you can show or hide it just like with user waypoints, or any other overlay you have. Typically speaking when you receive the file via download or email, it will ask if you want to open with Foreflight, Earth, or perhaps something else. Just select Foreflight and follow any instructions. Any questions just ask.
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    IN SW Michigan:
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    https://airfield.guide if you have not already looked at it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CubCruiser View Post
    With the exceptions of Quincy (designated grass landing area) and Dunnellon (as noted above), they are all Public Use and have maintained/designated grass runways, except DeFuniak Springs which has a nice dirt runway. Google “Florida Airport Guide” and download the free 2020 PDF that has lengths, fuel availability, diagrams, etc. The guide will also show a number of other great grass strips that don’t have fuel.
    Daryl
    are you sure on Everglades City? I have been in there twice and landed on the grass, and promptly caught a earful if shi#$& from a guy flying a sightseeing 206. Don’t know how he relates to the management of the airport, but I got a bit tired of that. Might do it again for pure entertainment ����
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scouter View Post
    Daryl
    are you sure on Everglades City? I have been in there twice and landed on the grass, and promptly caught a earful if shi#$& from a guy flying a sightseeing 206. Don’t know how he relates to the management of the airport, but I got a bit tired of that. Might do it again for pure entertainment ����
    jim
    Everglades City is a unique runway in that it is listed as Asphalt/Turf in both the Florida State Airports Guide and the A/FD. In the A/FD listing, it states that the runway “has a 50’ asph ctr with a 5’ turf edge on each side.” I land the east side, between the approach of 15 and the middle exit. That gives you about 1,250’. The turf is more than 5’ wide along there. I haven’t been there since July ‘19, so I suggest a check of the surface before landing.

    Ask the guy in the 206 to show you the reg that requires you to land on the centerline of the runway (or that you have to land on a runway). I try to play well with others, but I might toss a bit of sarcasm that guy’s way if he spouted off on the radio.
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    Ok folks, I had some time to kill so I pulled the FAA facility data down and massaged it a bit. Here are all the "non-paved" runways that say they have fuel. Be sure to confirm before trusting!

    http://bit.ly/Grassfuel

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    SJ, someone would need to go through that list and verify something more than the FAA's info.

    For example, the first two that I don't show as being included in the overlay map are 5AL1, McGowin Field; and AL79, Bartlett Ranch. McGowin Field looks slightly more commercialized than Bartlett Ranch, but on first glance I would be suspect of either of them having fuel on hand for sale, even though the FAA database shows 100LL.

    4AL2 listings states 2250 x 100 turf. But 4AL2 is a hospital heliport.

    It would not be a big deal to add any missing airports from that list into the overlay, although I'd be very wary of Alaska and some of these more private looking airports.

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    ID 82 Picabo, Idaho.

    Mogas only, straight out of the pumps. You taxi to the end, NW end, open the gate, then taxi another 100' or so, shut down and then push the last few feet. It is a fully operational and very active normal gas station, with owners that have a decades long tradition of providing mogas to pilots, all they ask is you don't taxi right up with the motor still running, seems fair enough. Self serve, E-0 premium.
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    ID 82 Picabo, Idaho.
    That's really cool, but - - On the chart it's marked "restricted, private", so in actual practice is it public use?
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    KCHT Chillicothe, Missouri - fuel available only when FBO is open though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Farmboy View Post
    SJ, someone would need to go through that list and verify something more than the FAA's info.

    For example, the first two that I don't show as being included in the overlay map are 5AL1, McGowin Field; and AL79, Bartlett Ranch. McGowin Field looks slightly more commercialized than Bartlett Ranch, but on first glance I would be suspect of either of them having fuel on hand for sale, even though the FAA database shows 100LL.

    4AL2 listings states 2250 x 100 turf. But 4AL2 is a hospital heliport.

    It would not be a big deal to add any missing airports from that list into the overlay, although I'd be very wary of Alaska and some of these more private looking airports.

    pb
    Pete, from my post: "Be sure to confirm before trusting!"

    It's just a starting point, further researching in foreflight, airnav, or the airfield guide is prudent.

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