To me, part of the answer might be "how far under" Would it be a few miles in or 5 from the center.Just a theoretical question - say you operate at a non towered field within the 30 nm mode-c arc. How would they bust you for not having the ads tracking hardware if there is no tower. Wouldn't they need spotters taking pictures of n numbers?
Just a theoretical question - say you operate at a non towered field within the 30 nm mode-c arc. How would they bust you for not having the ads tracking hardware if there is no tower. Wouldn't they need spotters taking pictures of n numbers?
The elephant in that room, though, is the fact that the FAA has apparently stated that intentional violation of the ADS-B rule will probably result in either revocation or suspension of your certificate.
Is it worth it?
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Not buying it.
It's an obvious end around for 'required airspace'. I think it's a winnable argument but as it's against the faa, it's a bit light wrestling a greased pig (after a while you realize the pig is starting to enjoy it WAY to much).
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Thread tangent : Not sure it was this thread or another that this was discussed in, but on checking for a customer the other day I ran across a prime example of ADSB ghosting.
Now, it could be I’m wrong here, but based on what I normally see, these idents is the same aircraft ghosting.
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As you see, formation-ish flight, only one N number, both Cape Air 402’s, and 200’-ish Alt discrepancy.
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What if you take off within the 30 nm arc at an non-towered field and then fly to another non-towered field - how are they going to know it was you unless they have a guy on the ground taking pictures?They will track non transponder aircraft to their destination if possible.
read the regulation, it’s actually quite clear and in plain English. I’m betting they’d win that one in a heartbeat. Remember, these are not criminal issues, and the FAA only has to prove you violated a reg. And no jury.
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You need it to cross the border unless you do not have an electrical system.Interesting topic. We are considering flying from NB through Northern Maine all the way to SNF. One aircraft has just mode C and the other, a Cub, has ADS-B In and Out. Our research, so far, looks like we can make the flight right to Lakeland FL from Northern Maine without ADS-B. We’d fly Interstate route 81 generally, at least part of it. Can anyone comment on the viability of doing this? We’d be staying away from big centers irregardless, but would still be landing at airports with FBO’s and fuel. Thanks in advance!
You need it to cross the border unless you do not have an electrical system.
What if you take off within the 30 nm arc at an non-towered field and then fly to another non-towered field - how are they going to know it was you unless they have a guy on the ground taking pictures?
Question: If you are in flight following mode and ATC issues those vectors you don't want to accept can you just cancel FF and fly your desired course?
Back to my theoretical question - how does some 'do-gooder' on the ground know if you are equipped with ads tracking h/w? My understanding is even the class d towers do not have that information on their screens. And, if you operating from non-towered fields (but within the 30 nm arc) how is anyone going to know who you are?All it takes is some do-gooder turning you in for violating reg airspace, and FSDO inspectors are required to investigate every complaint.