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    Cleveland wheel Kit STC

    As I had posted on another thread I just bought the Airframe Alaska wheel/brake kit for my A185F as it said it was approved for that model.
    The issue is it does not come with an STC I just discovered. So how does one install these legally. I do have a very good rapport with my IA.

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    Are they PMA'd? Check on the parts manual. If Cleveland brakes are listed as an option, just bolt them on.

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    Put them on.


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    I have a copy of the Cleveland STC # SA63GL for the 199-62 wheel & brake kit.
    It is not marked as being applicable to my specific airplane.
    Good for 180 - 180J, also 185 - 185F.
    Also have the two installation drawings referenced on the STC.
    I can scan them & email to you if it would help.
    It does state "Cleveland Wheel and Brake Conversion Kit P/N 199-62" though,
    so dunno if it would technically be applicable to the ABI kit, or the 199-62A kit.
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    Check the book for your specific serial number aircraft. Cleveland wheel/brakes are listed there. That makes them PMA'd. If your serial number falls in that run, any Cleveland part numbers are just bolt on items. No STC needed. The parts book becomes your 'documentation'.

    If you need a parts manual, download one or ask here for it.

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    I ordered wheels and brakes from Airframes. They don’t own the STC for my plane. They’d told me they were approved. I called and a couple days later, I had an STC from Atlee Dodge, no additional charge.

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    Please explain the STC. Cleveland wheels and brakes are already in the parts manual for a C-185F. Match the part numbers and bolt them on. Why would an STC be required for parts already in a manufacturer's parts manual?

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    I think he wants 8:50 tires. Most just put them on too, but I think the Clevelands are only good through 8:00 tires.
    I am not sure, but if I were going to do this I would check with Grove.

    I admit to a lot of 180 time on 8:50s without any specific approval. I plead "statute of limitations." Airplane works fine; no brake disc problems on paved runways.

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    Thank you Hotrod180 that should solve the problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wireweinie View Post
    Check the book for your specific serial number aircraft. Cleveland wheel/brakes are listed there. That makes them PMA'd. If your serial number falls in that run, any Cleveland part numbers are just bolt on items. No STC needed. The parts book becomes your 'documentation'. If you need a parts manual, download one or ask here for it. Web
    "Check the book" -- what book, the Cessna IPC?
    My hard copy is at the airport, but I just checked my digital version of the 1953-62 C180/182 IPC
    and see no mention of Cleveland wheels & brakes.
    Yet the Airframes website sez

    3-bolt, 1 1/2" axle, aluminum direct replacement for the Cleveland 199-62 wheel and brake kit.

    Kit comes with (2) ABI 40-75D 6" wheel assemblies and (2) ABI 30-52N brake assemblies (including bearings, races, bolts, etc).

    The ABI-199-62 wheel and brake kit is approved for:
    - Cessna series 180, 185, and 206
    -And now approved on A185-E, and A185-F models!

    https://www.airframesalaska.com/Alaskan-Bushwheel-199-62-Wheel-and-Brake-Assembly-p/abi-199-62.htm

    In my case, I already have a Cleveland 199-62 brake kit on my airplane,
    installed per their STC, so if I replaced it with an ABI kit it would be legal.
    But starting from scratch (aka a Macauley set-up)? Maybe not so much.
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    Original post was concerning an A185F. Cleveland wheels and brakes are listed in the parts manual.

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    Thank you all again for the advice. The issue is that yes the Cleveland wheels are approved for my serial number under their STC but I want to install the Airframes wheels.
    My IA says he feels comfortable doing it with the Cleveland STC I have on hand.

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