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    New from Cub Crafters

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    If one is able to rotate to a higher AOA and brake harder because of the nosewheel might it not have better stol performance? At least off smooth surfaces.

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    I was wondering when someone was going to do that,,,Iíll bet it will beat the taildragger version every time,,,U206 light is amazing on takeoff.
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    I think RXCub would fit better?

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    What happens when the front wheel gets stuck in a gopher hole? Seen some nice sized ones at Island Bobís.

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    Performs well, but wow, that sure is ugly!

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    Tri-Pacer with stones. Put a tiny wheel on the tail stinger for style and cushion. Trailing link front suspension good.

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    All it needs now is a yoke.....

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    And people say the CH-750 is ugly...
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    It may not be your favorite design (nice to have so many choices these days!), but don't forget that every dollar they make in revenue helps fund their R&D and keeps prices from climbing when things like diminishing manufacturing suppliers have to be mitigated and funded on existing models.

    If a nose gear model expands their customer base, I can't see how that's a bad thing - even to the purist.

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    Be interesting when someone decides to go water-skiing. Any further comments from me will just show what an ignorant old curmudgeon I am, but my stomach is twisting and turning involuntarily. It is a striking reminder of the Doyne conversion of the Cessna 170 from the early 50's - immediately branded by my parents as a Kiddie Kar. Sometimes it's just easier to wallow in ignorance, but if they could set it up like an Ercoupe with no rudder pedals for "lesser-abled" people, it might allow some to fly that couldn't otherwise, or have been injured. My personal sentiments are still about the same as in this photo taken with my mom, pre-ride in an Ercoupe. Then again I never liked bell bottom pants either.

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    they could make it a convertible like the glasair line, then when the owner wants to man up the training wheel could be removed from the front and a proper tail wheel assy installed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CamTom12 View Post
    It may not be your favorite design (nice to have so many choices these days!), but don't forget that every dollar they make in revenue helps fund their R&D and keeps prices from climbing when things like diminishing manufacturing suppliers have to be mitigated and funded on existing models.

    If a nose gear model expands their customer base, I can't see how that's a bad thing - even to the purist.

    Your joking right? Keeping prices down? Like if I can afford a $500k toy, do you think it’s going to really matter if I have to pay a few grand more on a new X-CC because nobody is buying a nosewheel version? No because I’m rich and I’ll buy it anyways.

    For the regular Joe, well we can’t afford one no matter if it has a nose wheel or not.

    These are Rich peoples toys.

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    Bet they're back ordered soon no matter how fugly they are.
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    When they offer antilock brakes I might have to look.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BC12D-4-85 View Post
    When they offer antilock brakes I might have to look.

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    I was thinking the same thing after hearing those tires squeal.
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    What’s the floppy thing on the starboard strut?

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    I think itís an artifact from using a 360 degree camera.
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    At least the nose gear is already bent back...
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    As I sit here on a Sunday night watching airplanes land in my back yard it occurs to me that there is no nose dragger that compares with the in-flight sexiness of a Cub or Skywagon. All other attributes aside, a tail dragger looks better in the air. Just my thoughts on a sunny Sunday evening.
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    As long as we are resurecting the dead why not a twin again?
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    Or mabe combine them?
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    This showed up in my youtube feed this morning--Mark Patey reviews the NX:


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    and side by side seating is next. i seen this story about 40-50 years ago. cub special ed beat me to it.
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    But wait! There's more! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4u0wNUGikM

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    New from Cub Crafters

    Why not skip the shock(s)(front) and do big tire(s) and incorporate the shock function into a(the) rims. (Big/huge)Tires are a huge energy resivor


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    WTF is all I have to say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BC12D-4-85 View Post
    But wait! There's more! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4u0wNUGikM

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    Phoney marketing film promoting the nose wheel. The tail wheel pilot wasn't even making an attempt to get off first. Tail high and no flaps. The tri-gear used flaps.
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    I flew it yesterday and it is simply amazing, the 393 is incredible.
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    There's no replacement for displacement. That's never been a secret. Having all that motor would be better used if there was more space or better access to loading the X Cub. If they aren't careful they'll evolve it into what a BCSC already is! Except that goofy nose wheel idea. That's just sad.

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    The new Skywagon (using the NX Cub model of bastardizing names).

    https://cessna.txtav.com/en/piston/cessna-skylane


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    You grumpy old men remind me of the horse and buggy crowd when automobiles took to the road. Enjoy the marketing experiment and embrace something new. Demand will drive supply.

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    Who's grumpy? I think it's funny.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BC12D-4-85 View Post
    You grumpy old men remind me of the horse and buggy crowd when automobiles took to the road. Enjoy the marketing experiment and embrace something new. Demand will drive supply.

    Gary
    Ha! I still think the twin cub is the coolest thing of all.

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    I also flew it and the FX3 back to back yesterday. The nose dragger is an alcoholics airplane. Drink a box of beer and you can still land it. Point it at the runway and stomp on the brakes. Two notches of flaps, wait a few seconds and pull back. That’s it. No s@&t. Aileron feel is between a cub and an RV. More like an RV. Engine sounds angry as hell and pulls just as well.

    The FX3 is more my style. Pretty sweet but you can’t get away with what you can in the NX. Dump the flaps at 3’, stand on the brakes and it acts like a taildragger. Just ask Sasser after he had to pull the back seat sling out of his brown star. Guess I should have given him a little heads up on short final
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    Good conversation and fun. Now I'm seeing a special ski on the nose for winter, 3-blade prop for clearance, and larger tires for cushion. Floats too. Beats my 78 yr old Taylorcraft by a few feet and forget crosswind problems.

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    Over the years there have been many very cool experimental Cubs built by members here. Did any of them ever build a nose dragger Cub? Not that I'm aware of. If they had? They'd have been laughed at universally. But Cubcrafters does it and it's the next big thing? People are funny.
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    I mean itís kind of unfair having the nose wheel cub with the bigger engine. Of course it will perform
    Better. Put the big engine in the tail wheel and have a true back to back comparison.


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    CC is just going with the others when it comes to swapping a tail wheel location. Most all did it eventually and even Boeing saw the need.

    If CC put a small wheel on the tail spring so it could be held on the ground the comparison would be interesting at the same horsepower.

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    I think there is some interesting gear geometry going on with the new nose-wheel Cub. The nose wheel is out on the front of the engine and the mains stayed in the same position as the tail wheel version. A Cessna for example has the nose gear mounted on the firewall and the mains shifted to the rear.

    I'd like to see this Cub with the cowl off and see the structure that supports the nose gear.

    I'm not a motorcycle guy but I imagine there were similar negative comments when the trikes started to appear - both two wheels in the front and two in the rear. I like to see innovation in GA and that's what this is. It isn't for me or most of the SC.org members but it is nice to see the research and engineering that went into this.
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    Did you confirm main gear geometry? My understanding from early on was that the gear was turned around? Maybe just a misunderstanding on my part?

    Pb

    EDIT - Verified this info - Original idea didn't match the CG, so the result was the NXCub does have it's main gear further aft than the XCub and different gear legs.
    They are "convertable". Meaning, owners will be able to purchase a kit to transform either version into a trike, or into a taildragger, should they or a future owner so choose. This kit is only available on the 393i models. (Older carb models would interfere with a nosegear)

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