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    I have a setting where I can have a wheel access airplane door on one end of the hangar, and the ability to have a seaplane/water access on the side wall of a new hangar.
    Just wondered if anyone has done a ramp or tracks to park seaplane on straight floats, then winch airplane on ramp into the hangar? Plane on floats would be lined up with side hangar door when parked in water.
    In the planning stage, just wondering the best option to have wheel and float access. Hangar would be deep enough to allow fitting at least two airplanes, one through wheel access door, other through water access door. Hangar would be within say 10' of water.
    Any input or thoughts?
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    14 X 60 Hi Power is about $14,000 plus tax and shipping. You provide the skin for the door and hydraulic fluid.
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    Ok, the sticky-outie length. I get it now.

    That's an interesting system and a good idea for lots of applications. I'm pleased with mine. Two hydraulic rams and some hinges. Works great. I wonder how the two systems compare in price?
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    Quote Originally Posted by john schwamm View Post
    I have a setting where I can have a wheel access airplane door on one end of the hangar, and the ability to have a seaplane/water access on the side wall of a new hangar.
    Just wondered if anyone has done a ramp or tracks to park seaplane on straight floats, then winch airplane on ramp into the hangar? Plane on floats would be lined up with side hangar door when parked in water.
    In the planning stage, just wondering the best option to have wheel and float access. Hangar would be deep enough to allow fitting at least two airplanes, one through wheel access door, other through water access door. Hangar would be within say 10' of water.
    Any input or thoughts?
    John
    First off your idea makes me envious.
    I flew off of Cambell lake in south Anchorage for about ten years. There were a few rail units as I recall to pull your plane from the water and up on the grass; but there was this one hangar that appeared to be built out over the lake as the 185 floated inside of the building. If you are only ten feet away perhaps you can create a channel / ditch to float inside and then use a lift to raise it out of the water if needed. It could double as an indoor swimming pool as well.
    It would be super cool to open the door and float right out to the lake.

    i was at a friends house in Northern Alberta many years ago that used a track system to get his cub into the water from the hangar and it worked well. He was a good hundred feet back from the shore though.

    Good luck with your plans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by john schwamm View Post
    I have a setting where I can have a wheel access airplane door on one end of the hangar, and the ability to have a seaplane/water access on the side wall of a new hangar.
    Just wondered if anyone has done a ramp or tracks to park seaplane on straight floats, then winch airplane on ramp into the hangar? Plane on floats would be lined up with side hangar door when parked in water.
    In the planning stage, just wondering the best option to have wheel and float access. Hangar would be deep enough to allow fitting at least two airplanes, one through wheel access door, other through water access door. Hangar would be within say 10' of water.
    Any input or thoughts?
    John
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    Quote Originally Posted by john schwamm View Post
    I have a setting where I can have a wheel access airplane door on one end of the hangar, and the ability to have a seaplane/water access on the side wall of a new hangar.
    Just wondered if anyone has done a ramp or tracks to park seaplane on straight floats, then winch airplane on ramp into the hangar? Plane on floats would be lined up with side hangar door when parked in water.
    In the planning stage, just wondering the best option to have wheel and float access. Hangar would be deep enough to allow fitting at least two airplanes, one through wheel access door, other through water access door. Hangar would be within say 10' of water.
    Any input or thoughts?
    John
    John, This is not quite what you were asking, but there was a hangar built into the dam at the Quabbin Reservoir in Massachusetts. It has a set of tracks going from the hangar into the water. There is room enough to taxi an amphib up the ramp next to the tracks. https://www.mass.gov/files/documents...all%202011.pdf
    "A seaplane hangar facing the water beneath the roadway in front o fthe main entrance to the building was also part of the original plan, as it was expected that the reservoir would be patrolled by amphibious aircraft. While that idea never came to fruition, the hanger remains and now serves as an ideal boat storage and maintenance facility." The last picture here shows the hangar.
    More here: https://www.rinkerpipe.com/files/Rin...nReservoir.pdf

    The hangar is under the pavement below that iron fence.

    Years ago I flew the director of the department which controls the reservoir there with the Twin Bee and we taxied up that ramp. At the time they were considering buying an airplane. What a coincidence when we discovered that he and my Dad were boyhood friends. As a result I was given permission to land there whenever I wanted. I doubt that I could do it today without getting in trouble though I did take advantage of the privilege a few times. I've even forgotten his name.


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    I've also seen somewhere in Maine a single plane hangar built like a float in boathouse. The plane was floated tailed in, the tails of the floats were set up on a plank with some sort of a lifting device under the bows, the plane was then lifted out of the water inside the hangar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cubpilot2 View Post
    First off your idea makes me envious.
    I flew off of Cambell lake in south Anchorage for about ten years. There were a few rail units as I recall to pull your plane from the water and up on the grass; but there was this one hangar that appeared to be built out over the lake as the 185 floated inside of the building. If you are only ten feet away perhaps you can create a channel / ditch to float inside and then use a lift to raise it out of the water if needed. It could double as an indoor swimming pool as well.
    It would be super cool to open the door and float right out to the lake.

    i was at a friends house in Northern Alberta many years ago that used a track system to get his cub into the water from the hangar and it worked well. He was a good hundred feet back from the shore though.

    Good luck with your plans.
    Cost of doing that in a hangar that would be heated in winter would be pretty much not possible. Freezing conditions, with water in/against foundation would make that not practical at all I believe. One would be building a heated pool in winter!! Then one does not have the use of the hangar floor area where floatplane would park at all.
    Sounds cool, but not practical.
    Thanks,
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    There was a hangar built on a small lake in Kodiak (Island Lake) with the hangar built out from shore. The bifold door went down to water surface. Door opened with a remote. There was a wood ramp inside and side platforms. When the owner landed his Super Cub, he opened the door of the hangar with the remote, then drove the plane into the hangar, sticking it on the ramp. He could then exit, turn the plane around and heel it up on the ramp, ready for departure.

    inside, he had a hoist overhead, so when cold weather arrived, he could lift the plane out of the water to prevent freeze in. When (if) the ice got thick enough, he’d remove the floats and install gear, and run on skis, till water got soft again.

    This was a really well thought out and functional place. Norm Sutliff was the owner and builder. His home was right next to the hangar. Worked fine in Kodiak. Obviously not heated. I was always envious of that setup.

    Have you seen Kenmores setup for getting planes in and out of water? It’s a ramp where you stick the plane, tie it to the ramp, then the ramp is electrically winched up a set of rails to level. They then use a forklift to pick the plane, but you could do something similar to bring the plane into Hangar. If the ramp was on tires instead of rails, you could then store the ramp outside during cold when floatplane on wheels.

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    High Power question. How do they seal the top? With a fixed hinge edge its pretty simple. And effective. How do you seal an articulating door?

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    Mine is 54x45. I could get 3 planes in it if the perimeter didn't have items stored. 44 foot bifold door and overhead centered at rear. Allow some feet either side big door for wind load strength. I went bigger for universal storage, it's cheaper than building another garage.
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    [QUOTE=stewartb;748919]High Power question. How do they seal the top? With a fixed hinge edge its pretty simple. And effective. How do you seal an articulating door?


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    The gap between the top of the door and header is pretty tight. Tighter than most standard garage doors. I still haven’t gotten around to installing the top weather strip on mine. There’s just not much of a gap.

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    Did the weatherstripping on mine IAW the instructions and materials that came with the door. Works well.
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    [QUOTE=KevinJ;748925]
    Quote Originally Posted by stewartb View Post
    High Power question. How do they seal the top? With a fixed hinge edge its pretty simple. And effective. How do you seal an articulating door?

    The other thing is, the door is inside the building so there is a natural overhang of the wall thickness to shield against water ingress, and the door closes up against the inside header surface. The bad news is, since the door is inside, you do lose the thickness of the door from your inside square footage. We replaced a homebuilt bifold with a Higher Power and no regrets it works perfect, though the nose of the last plane in does have to be 6" further back than before.. Our building was not engineered for the "single-panel-top-hinge" type door so that was never a consideration.


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    The gap between the top of the door and header is pretty tight. Tighter than most standard garage doors. I still haven’t gotten around to installing the top weather strip on mine. There’s just not much of a gap.

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    John Schwamm: This is what I did https://www.bifold.com/photo-of-the-day-dryden.php . Very painless way of getting the plane inside.
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