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Thread: 7ECA, Champ - 100hp vs 115hp, anyone here experienced both ?

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    Most O-200 were put in small nosedraggers(short prop) so they need a cam to swing a decent prop. I see the O-235 likes 2800 rpm, same story? Is there a cam available?
    What's a go-around?

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    There is for experimental. I put a cam in mine that is like the old 788 cams that the c90 had. It will turn a catto 78-37. With a Mac 74-38 I have to be careful
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    Quote Originally Posted by Another Cubber View Post
    Considering looking for a project. Wondering if anyone around here had flown both the continental and lycoming versions and could tell me how they compare in performance. I know the o-200 is considerably lighter than the o-235 and a lot of cub guys seem to prefer it due to weight. Not concerned about about the other differences, champ vs spring landing gear, etc. generaly associated with the 2 different models or the costs. looking for empty weight, ground roll, climb rate, cruise speed and such. Thanks !
    I had an O-200 Citabria with oleos for a while. A real dog but it may have just been that plane. My friend with a 7BC, 75 hp could beat me on takeoff distance and out climb mine. And this was at the same gross weight. I did a service ceiling test once. Very close to standard conditions and takeoff at gross weight. Barely got it to 8100’.

    Compressions checked good and prop checked by shop, was in specks but I don’t know which prop it was.

    I’ve been looking for an O-235 7ECA but some of these responses make me wonder. I don’t want to spend the fuel on a 7GCBC but do want more than 200 from.

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    Yeah, sounds like the o-200 eca is less than ideal. For the o-235 think id be looking for a later model with the k2c engine and at the moment these are selling for more than i want to put into one. too close in price to a 7gcaa. And I'm looking for simple and cheap. Best so far, and I haven't much experience in champs, has been a light l-16 with a c-90. Makes me wish i had looked into a recent champ project on barnstormers with metal spar wings. For what nice flying champs are bringing these days, I'm looking for a j3. Plenty of spam cans around if i need to go somewhere.

    Maybe I'll luck out and find an experimental j3 project. Think id clip it and see how close to 600 lbs I could get it. Never been in a clipped cub but always thought they looked right proportioned. Every once in a while a picture of the red and white one todd peterson flew pops up and i want one.

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    Since starting this thread, done a lot of thinking about what i'm looking to get out of a plane. Something easy to maintain and cheap to operate out of grass strips, fun to fly, and safe enough to put my kids in to tool around a bit. Living again in the south central US at 500 msl, don't need the horsepower that was necessary in the high desert or the useful load to carry enough fuel to get somewhere. Winters aren't that cold ever ther.Big fan of simplicity and prefer non electric. To me, a cub really wins here. Much more comfortable hand propping from behind holding door frame with quick access to the controls. Makes the pa-11 the perfect plane. Its no secret based on what they are bringing.
    Haven't completely ruled out champs, but it would have to be special to choose it over a similarly priced j3.

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    Sometimes it is just better to see what comes along without having any particular make and model in mind. My first airplane was a $400 wrecked T-craft which just happened to fit my budget. I wasn't looking for one and hadn't even considered one. Yet there it was, it got me started and wasn't a bad airplane at all. It led to a partially rebuilt Swift and it led to a wrecked Colonial C-1 and it led to, well you get the idea. You never know what will turn up.
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    Try to go light no electric. A 85 or 90 hrs champ is good. More room
    than a cub and way cheaper and fly out of the front seat. As far as propping take the door off it’s easy to do. I had one for a long time sold it and have a cub and I do miss the room and the easy getting in and out.

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