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    Johnson Creek 2019

    Stuck inside dreaming about flying...

    Johnson Creek is coming fast, and I am getting my plan together to join in the fun

    My present plan includes a CFII joining me for the ride down, doing my instrument comp on the way down.

    That means I should be able to shoot the approach into Johnson Creek smooth as silk, and maybe even make the landing first try

    I will go back and try to find the great videos teaching me everything I need to know about JC. I remember Uncle Eaton and Dave (Green Hornet) K's battle of the videos years back- number one message was DON'T FLY OVER THE HOUSE. I also think there is something about going around is a bad idea most times.

    Some questions: Which tries should I wear on the trip? I can cruise in the yellow with little ones, but am plenty fast with mid-size 31's. Or should I leave the tall boys on for the trip? When I was there last time we did not go anywhere tough, and photos show that 8:50s would probably be fine most places... Your thoughts? I might just bring the 31's inside and change over once there as an idea, but I bet it would only save me a couple hours each way.

    Who else is coming? If we get out early, should we head to eastern Montana for some Missouri Breaks action?

    Will any of you be headed north afterwords?
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    Quote Originally Posted by aktango58 View Post
    .... number one message was DON'T FLY OVER THE HOUSE. I also think there is something about going around is a bad idea most times.
    Don't fly through the house either.
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    8.50s will work fine for the strips around JC. They are maintained pretty well. Going around is fine as long as you don't bounce five times, wait till the last second, and bounce it off of a tree!
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    If you're in the flare and feel like you're running out if runway and need to go around, it's too late. You'll only add energy to the impact.

    It's been demonstrated many times.

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    Thank you all for the helpful hints!! As I recall, the strip is pretty long, and there was this one Jenks guy that was doing EARLY morning takeoffs in a Carbon Cub headed up valley around the house. Hope to remember Kirby's name from that...

    I have searched all over and can not find the old JC BAW thread with all the cool training videos. Uncle Eaton, you were part of the creative minds there- any chance you have them somewhere? SJ?

    Some of that was pretty funny.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aktango58 View Post
    Thank you all for the helpful hints!! As I recall, the strip is pretty long, and there was this one Jenks guy that was doing EARLY morning takeoffs in a Carbon Cub headed up valley around the house. Hope to remember Kirby's name from that...

    I have searched all over and can not find the old JC BAW thread with all the cool training videos. Uncle Eaton, you were part of the creative minds there- any chance you have them somewhere? SJ?

    Some of that was pretty funny.
    I don’t think I made any videos on training. Most of mine were “don’t try this at home”. I think Greg swingle had some


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    Be ready to slip when your on final. The strip is long and wide, you’ll be way high the first time. At least I was.


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    Quote Originally Posted by aktango58 View Post
    Thank you all for the helpful hints!! As I recall, the strip is pretty long, and there was this one Jenks guy that was doing EARLY morning takeoffs in a Carbon Cub headed up valley around the house. Hope to remember Kirby's name from that...

    I have searched all over and can not find the old JC BAW thread with all the cool training videos. Uncle Eaton, you were part of the creative minds there- any chance you have them somewhere? SJ?

    Some of that was pretty funny.
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    There was a very good Youtube video that explained the procedures very well but I can't Find it. Guess I will be one of those howling 180s that hurt your ears in that canyon. I too was impossibly high the first attempt. Quick 360 fixed it. "Prop Noise..The sound of Money!!"
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    That's it!!

    Here is our fearless leader!
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4axvVKPGVz0
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    As valuable as peripheral vision is, you have to pretty much ignore it and focus on your touchdown point at JC or you will indeed be too high.
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    Was there for the 1st time last year. Made base turn and turned final at the approach end, landed without any problems. My S7 handled the decent easily but noticed that most would carry their left base into the canyon resulting in a right base to final. Downwind is at tree level which keeps you pretty high but you have a 3400' runway. If you can't put it down within that you probably should not be flying in the Idaho back country. The canyon was a lot narrower than I thought after watching several landings on Utube. SLOW FLIGHT. SLOW FLIGHT

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    Quote Originally Posted by ar

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    Was there for the 1st time last year. Made base turn and turned final at the approach end, landed without any problems. My S7 handled the decent easily but noticed that most would carry their left base into the canyon resulting in a right base to final. Downwind is at tree level which keeps you pretty high but you have a 3400' runway. If you can't put it down within that you probably should not be flying in the Idaho back country. The canyon was a lot narrower than I thought after watching several landings on Utube. SLOW FLIGHT. SLOW FLIGHT
    If you are high, and have a tailwind (which can be often), you will have a hard time getting down. Better to fly down to the big “notch” (pictured), get down in altitude and fly up the creek.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eddie Foy View Post
    That's it!!

    Here is our fearless leader!
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4axvVKPGVz0
    That was one. I also recall some 'animated' types of videos, which I think Uncle E was helping with.

    Kirby, You didn't stop grinning for three days after your morning test flight in the Carbon Cub. Heck, you loved it so much you convinced your girl to work for CC in hopes of a discount!

    Folks still think that the 'Claw' is the best tiedown to have for grass parking?

    What are the best bribes to bring our lead organizers to ensure we are allowed to come play?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eddie Foy View Post
    8.50s will work fine for the strips around JC. They are maintained pretty well. Going around is fine as long as you don't bounce five times, wait till the last second, and bounce it off of a tree!
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    Ed, I think you were sitting with us when this accident happened.


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    Ouch!


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    If you are high, and have a tailwind (which can be often), you will have a hard time getting down. Better to fly down to the big “notch” (pictured), get down in altitude and fly up the creek.
    If you’re high do another lap in the pattern and lose some of that height, rather than making up your own traffic pattern.

    It really is pretty easy to land there....

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