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    The control tower at Hondo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Pierce View Post
    Then the sliding weight in the Rat Cub.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OLDCROWE View Post
    Is that a garage door opener?
    Similar run with a Dewalt cordless drill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Pierce View Post
    Tony Lopez from Aero Pod broke his tailwheel pivot bolt, borrowed some parts and got back in service and won the Bushwheels and the Turnbull rifle.
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    That was one of the neater things of the weekend. I felt bad for him tearing up his tail then not being able to compete. Corrigans on the field came up with the part. Tony deserves to win both. Good karma!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Pierce View Post
    Similar run with a Dewalt cordless drill.
    Very impressive innovation.
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    Not sure why some of my pictures posted and some didn't so I fixed it. Sure miss Picasa. Google Photos needs to step it up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Pierce View Post
    Hal dominated Experimental LSA. He was in cross country configuration this morning for the 1250 mile trip. This thing weighs 585 lbs.
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    I did about 20 hours of "flight testing" (screwing around) last year for the guy who made Hal's pods, Joel Milloway, (dirtfly7@yahoo.com). They are baggage pods in case it's not obvious, NOT bombs! At one point we did 4 or 5 cycles of take offs and landings, keeping it as slow and short as possible. I too, like Hal, am a Rans S-7/S-7S pilot BTW, 3500 hrs in type, so know the bird well. Here is the punch line: as near as Joel and I could determine, the damn plane flies BETTER with the pods then without. It got off a bit quicker, and landed a bit shorter, not a lot, but for sure not slower to get off, or any longer to land. We reluctantly came to the conclusion that just possibly, some kind of black aero magic was going on, similar I think maybe to a lot of you Cub guys reporting a bit faster cruise with a belly tank. Maybe they act like little wings, or at least produce enough lift to offset their drag and weight, beats me. NO discernable difference in cruise.

    Point being, I need to check with Hal and see if he has tried competing WITH the pods in place, he may be surprised. They have a surprising amount of room inside, my single carbon fiber pod right now has 2 sleeping bags, a tent, lawn chair, ground cloth, in it, with plenty of room left over. Based on my earlier testing last year when I flew at one point with just one pod, (no yawing problems, couldn't tell any difference) when I bought recently I bought just one, and have about 25 hours on it so far. Maybe I'm just clueless but I can't tell it's there in flight, (including stalls) the only disadvantage seems to be it looks weird, having two would look better, but I really don't need all that extra baggage area two would offer. Now when I return from an over night trip, I leave them packed, and just pull two pip pins and then hang it on the hangar wall, ready to go the next time.
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    I camped next to Hal. He’s a gentleman and a class act!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Pierce View Post
    Then the sliding weight in the Rat Cub.
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    Am sure Iím the only one that doesnít know so Iíll ask.... What the heck is this sliding weight for..?? I might need one in the VW Bus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruffair View Post
    Am sure I’m the only one that doesn’t know so I’ll ask.... What the heck is this sliding weight for..?? I might need one in the VW Bus.
    I believe I was told it was 30 lbs of lead. The pilot ran it all the way forward for takeoff and all the way back for landinging. I know the aft CG helps the landing in my Super Cub. I guess with the weight forward, the tail comes up quicker, or stays up, less drag so you accelerate to flying speed quicker.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Pierce View Post
    The control tower at Hondo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by courierguy View Post
    I did about 20 hours of "flight testing" (screwing around) last year for the guy who made Hal's pods, ......
    To avoid thread drift see my response here: http://www.supercub.org/forum/showth...574#post728574
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Pierce View Post
    I believe I was told it was 30 lbs of lead. The pilot ran it all the way forward for takeoff and all the way back for landinging. I know the aft CG helps the landing in my Super Cub. I guess with the weight forward, the tail comes up quicker, or stays up, less drag so you accelerate to flying speed quicker.
    Both my 11 and the cub I have now did shorter takeoffs and landings with me in the back seat

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    I had a conversation in Hondo last weekend about taking off from the front, then landing from the back seat. Transitioning seat position and dumping flaps might be a problem

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    I had a conversation in Hondo last weekend about taking off from the front, then landing from the back seat. Transitioning seat position and dumping flaps might be a problem
    I did that in an L4. After replacing the right gear in a field and taking off I couldn't trim it out and then noticed the placard "Solo From Rear Seat". I tried jumping in the back seat but hit the rear stick with my ass and she pitched up abruptly. Sat back in the front and contemplated the landing vs the possible NTSB report where the pilot was found in the wreckage with the stick up his ass. I ended up jumping over the stick into the back seat and no more issues but learned to pay more attention and not assume all Aeroncas are the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Pierce View Post
    I did that in an L4. After replacing the gear in a field and taking off I couldn't trim it out and then noticed the placard "Soli From Rear Seat". I tried jumping in the back seat but hit the rear stick with my ass and she pitched up abruptly. Say back in the front and contimplated the landing vs the possible NTSB report where the pilot was found in the wreckage with the stick up his ass. I ended up jumping over the stick into the back seat and no more issues but learned to pay more attention and not assume all Aeroncas are the same.
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    Pierce is one of the few guys to continually test “Darwin’s Law” and somehow remain undefeated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SJ View Post
    It also will slide up between your T-shirt and your stomach

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    Been looking for the video's that were live streamed on AOPA and the STOL Roundup Facebook online but can't find them anywhere. Any ideas? Would also like to see the numbers from last weekend, cell phone shot of the result sheets?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Pierce View Post
    Been looking for the video's that were live streamed on AOPA and the STOL Roundup Facebook online but can't find them anywhere. Any ideas? Would also like to see the numbers from last weekend, cell phone shot of the result sheets?
    Ditto! I've been trying to find the result also. But will admit that my computer skills leave a lot to be desired.

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    I found it on the AOPA page somewhere. Don’t get too excited. It’s a fuzzy screen with “Rain Delay” wrote across the bottom followed by most of the obstacle STOL. None of the traditional STOL was filmed that I can find. Guessing that the live stream expired before the traditional STOL started? I’m also looking for the result numbers.
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    Go to the AOPA Facebook page and scroll down the videos. It’s a ways down.

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    Thanks, found it. That was a nice, short landing. Notice some folks were pushing the nose over after they cleared the obstacal.
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    I’ve always thought that stalling it down without creating a crater is the shortest. Seems like I’ve noticed more light planes like carbon cubs pushing over. Either way, it takes lots of brake to get stopped.
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    Gotta give the guy in the Champ a Giant 'E" trophy!! For Effort!! Two up and no flaps, he's having a blast and could care less if he wins. My kind of flying.
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    I guess us Luddites who haven't clicked away our digital souls to InstaFaceTwitSnap don't get to see it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by txpacer View Post
    I guess us Luddites who haven't clicked away our digital souls to InstaFaceTwitSnap don't get to see it.
    Actually Tony, you don’t have to be a card carrying member of BookFace to watch. Anybody, even you and I can watch if you go to AOPAs Facebook page. Your L21 even looks like it flys slower on the live stream

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    I tried, it wanted me to log in.
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    Maybe Pierce can send you the link. He’s an InstaFaceSnapTwit er

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    Go to the AOPA Facebook page and scroll down the videos. It’s a ways down.
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    Maybe Pierce can send you the link. He’s an InstaFaceSnapTwit er
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    Got it on the desktop. Apparently, trying to watch it on an Android without logging in is insufficiently hip, and therefore not allowed.

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    All I found was one 2:02 that said it was from Llano.
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    Sounds like you figured it out Tony. I’d say this run was about right

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    I was bracing for the scratch call

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    Iíll get the scores posted this coming week. Working on getting a full copy of the live stream video as well,


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    Here is a link to the top three scores for each class in each event. As soon as I can I'll get everyone's scores posted.

    http://www.texasstolroundup.org/past_events.html
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    Thanks, Phil!

    And by the way, folks, the winner of the “light touring” class, CC Pocock, was flying a pretty much stock Cessna 170B. Yes, he had a set of Bushwheel’s, but stock engine.....

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    They were actually the shaved tires with GarAero wheel adapters. He and I were discussing that. Lighter wheels than the 10 Bushwheel and he trains a lot so the Bushweels would wear out fast. Interior was gutted with one seat and he removes all of the carb heat ducting and air filter. Said the ram air helps the O-300 breath. Reminds me of what Bill Rusk did with a 170B years ago.
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    I hope that he never gets any carburetor ice. Or does he only remove it for competitions? Even partial carb ice with an inoperative carb heat can be nerve wracking with one of those 6 cylinder Continentals.
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