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https://sandia.aero/product/sai-340-quattro/
Everybody is all over the Garmin. What about the Sandia Quattro?
https://sandia.aero/product/sai-340-quattro/
Pretty busy display for that small, I keep the alt and speed tapes turned off on my Aspen for that reason and it’s about the same width just taller.Originally Posted by Steve Pierce
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Doesn't the X Cub use the G3X Touch as primary and a Sandia as a backup? Given the commitment to Garmin to get the G3X approved I thought the choice of a Sandia was interesting.
$1,446 more is one good reason.
N1PA
How the panel looks in use....
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Wait!
Where’d the bungee go, better go back and look for it.
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That wins the funny photo competition.
Give the iPad to the kids. The thing on the left to your wife and look out the window. Reference the thing at the bottom occasionaly for accurate tracking and groundspeed.
But if the lure of gadgets is irresistible then a Lear would be fun.
Let me know when you decide on the panel. We have some really nice brackets that allow for flush mounting of the G5.
FYI - The G5 is not perfectly square so we created two different "double" brackets, one that is Universal and can be used in either the horizontal or vertical, and another one that allows you to eliminate the gap when used in the double horizontal orientation. We also have a single bracket.
If this post breaks the rules - I'm happy to remove the post. I just dont want anyone to feel like they have to reinvent the wheel.
Just to give you an idea what a web-janitor can do, here's what a 27 yr old flight instructor (22 yrs ago) did in his parents' basement with a sheet of aluminum from aircraft spruce, some rubber mounting studs, second hand eyebrow lights, and a silk screen
i didn't have money at the time to update the instruments or radios or for a panel mounted clock/timer. I think I put the better audio panel in and pulled a good used KX-170B from the flight school's radio shop, probably got a bargain on it.
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That is sweet Grant!
I don't know where you've been me lad, but I see you won first Prize!
Grant-
Nice work with the flush mount brackets. How much?
I have them turned off ( pitot / static not hooked up ) on my Garmin G5 for the same reason--
to un-busy the display.
Cessna Skywagon-- accept no substitute!
A trick that a lot of homebuilders do is to cut a clear plexiglass panel and temporarily install it. That lets you see any obstructions behind the panel while you're playing around with instrument and avionics placement. Then, once you have everything laid out, you transfer it to your "real" panel. Works pretty well, and not overly expensive.
Edited to add: You can use "el cheapo" plexiglass from one of the big box stores - doesn't have to be the good stuff...
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Jim Parker
2007 Rans S-6ES
This is what we did on the 182 build. Really helped getting everything in position without cutting metal.
I don't know how SJ's new dash is going but I've been mulling over mine.
For Cessna 180J
Does anyone have an electronic thing (I was going to say CAD drawing but I know so little of such I'll keep to calling it a "thing") that I can get a floating panel for a C180 cut locally?
I'm happy to buy the blanks also and can get the holes cut locally.
For both the left and right floating panel.
Obviously happy pay for the electronic thing.
Similar topic, does anyone know where to get an old Wakmann 7 day winding clock referbished?
SJ, I didn't even notice the yellow thing over to the right on your dash. I take it that it's not a GPS but maybe location tracker?
Cheers,
Texmex.
Tex, that is a Delorme InReach tracker. I've had the eight day clocks rebuilt by local watch/clock shops - but some will refuse to do it because it goes in an airplane thinking it is a safety item....
I've been distracted with other things and not thinking about my panel..
sj
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180J panel stripped. Measure twice, cut once. Just like a Cub, there's stuff behind there that limits what instruments go where.
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Work in progress, but getting there.
NICE! Is that a GTN650? And it fits flush there and you can still pull the yoke back?
Work in progress, but getting there.
sj
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Oh this knowledge is going to be expensive....
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Before you dump too much cash into that plane, take a look at the Dynon Skyview PFD. 7 inch and 10 inch. With the 10 inch, you can add engine instrumentation, maybe with the 7 as well. I think they now have STC with a huge AML. I don't know if it'll drive your autopilot, but should be easy to find out.
https://www.dynoncertified.com/
Cut one hole, cover a LOT of "stuff".
Not cheap, but neither is any of this.
MTV
Cessna 180 is not covered in the AML
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That is not correct. It is on the AML. I took a serious look at it before going with Garmin.
Your panel looks very nice. Enjoy it. And like all of us with glass? Understand that in 6 months something newer and cooler will come out and your stuff will be dated. But it'll still work as well as the day you installed it.
hoo boy....I'm in trouble!
Grant is spot on with the flush G5 bracket. They look very nice recessed.
A few of us on here can cut templates before cutting the new panel.
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Wow, I saw this waaaay too late to answer.
my '56 Green Hornet got a new panel sort of - but it I didn't start with quite the level of capability that SJ has. My plane was vfr with a really old vfr apollo gps, with only a single point egt/cht. I installed an EI CGR30P and replaced 9 holes for 1 and cleaned up a bunch of stuff (and deleted the clock). I had a friend cut the panel for me - turned out great. It was about 40 hours of work to install the CGR30P.
Low and behold, I sold that '56 180 a few years ago and immediately regretted it. I just got another '55 180 with a dual king nav/comm but no gps. It has a shadin fuel totalizer, but again only the factree single point cht/egt so I can't stop thinking about upgrading. This time around, I'm probably going to go whole hog Garmin G3X. But I'm going to take just a little more time before writing that check.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-h1PT70YF9I
15K IFR certified.
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Hey folks! Reviving this thread. Panel looks about the same as it did four years ago when I posted this. I have a little money to spend and am thinking through options.
1. Are dual G5's still the way to go or is there a better option?
2. Is the CGR-30 still the cats meow?
3. Anybody put a G3X touch in a 55' 180? - Ok, I said a LITTLE money....
sj
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Steve,
Take a look at uAvionix. Their AV-30 are quite a bit cheaper than G-5. That said, I have no idea how they work for IFR cert. An interesting thing they have is the new duplex Tailbeacon. It contains not only a 1090 ES ADS-B out transmitter, with gps, but also it incorporates a transponder as well. AND, it offers duplex ADS-B, so should be legal in Canada, when ADS-B becomes required there.
I own and have owned a couple other EDM 900s, and I really like them. They take up a little more panel space, but they also present ALL required instrument readings on one page, unlike the CGR. Mostly, I just like the display better.
If you’re going there, with either engine instrument, both companies generally offer significant discounts during Oshkosh, and you don’t have to buy at the show.
MTV
The CGR30P gives you all the required instruments on one page especially since you have site fuel gauges in your 180.
https://www.iflyei.com/product/cgr-30p-premium/
I think there was enough room to put G5’s. You need the cgr if you want to have a 4 or 530 size radio in the panel. You couldn’t pay me to take the cgr out of my cub.
When I checked out the AV-30 it had no rate of turn indicator. I asked support why, and if they intended to add one, and they did not see any reason it was necessary.
In contrast the G5 not only has a clear turn rate indicator it also puts ticks on the roll scale to show bank angle for standard rate at current airspeed.
The only advantage I see for the AV-30 is that it will fit some places that a G5 won't. Doubly true if you want a stacked pair.
Ummm, and $400 to $600 cheaper…..
MTV
What Tim said!
Lou
I’ll have to check, but I think I still have that panel saved in cad. Have a friend who cuts them out.
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