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    Replacing Seat Upholstery

    My cubcrafter seats are at least 12 years old and are showing significant wear. I am planning to replace them and know that some of you are really happy with your seats, and some are not. Any recommendations?

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    Oregon Aero and get the leather...no complaints. If you call and give them an idea of what colors you’re interested they will send samples, Also be sure to tell them NOT to put the stock shoulder harness port in the top and if you have the folding seat mod they used my seats as the pattern for that mod.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WindOnHisNose View Post
    My cubcrafter seats are at least 12 years old and are showing significant wear. I am planning to replace them and know that some of you are really happy with your seats, and some are not. Any recommendations?

    Thank you.

    Randy
    Tough deal Dr. Randy.

    Best solution actually is for you to bring that cub up here and drop it off and take my Maule home as it's seats are still good. Also your best elf could sit next to you in flight!

    I flew Oregon Aero in my cub, did 12 hour days, and one flight was 4.5 hours. Posterior hurt after hours and hours, but was way better than other seats I have been in. I had over 1,000 hours in those seats, and they came with the plane; they still looked very good even though they were in a utility/hunting environment all the time.

    Dealing with Oregon Aero, and I have multiple times, has been easy and a great experience. I have no reservations about doing further business with them. They make a great product.

    Not much experience with Fine Line- others like them.
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    Oregon Aero, Randy. They are the masters of airplane seat comfort. I put an OA seat cushion set in my PA-11, which has a Super Cub seat, and asked them to keep them as thin as practical, without sacrificing comfort. The seats are just perfect.

    They offer leather, fabric, or a combination. I opted for the combination, which I really like.

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    I have used Oregon Aero in the last 4 Super Cubs I have built and have them in mine. Very comfortable even after very long flights. Piper had shoulder harnesses come out of the seat back and Kirby had that hole eliminated and zipper put in the rear pocket instead of the velcro. Much better set up and they also used his seat that was modified with Atlee Dodge folding seat STC as a pattern and made the seat fold easier. I also have them leave the apron off the front of the rear seat bottom so you don't have to unsnap it to get into the under seat storage.
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    Oregon Aero treated me well, and I like the seats. Not to say they're the only good solution, but they are a good one.
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    I have Fine Line and cast my vote for Oregon Aero. The tempur/memory foam makes all the difference. Mine are OK comfort wise, but the OA's are better.

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    I have a fine line seat, I took the foam out and put in temper foam myself. Save yourself the hassle and get Oregon Aero to start with.
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    what was the hassle with the FAA and seats a few years ago?? didn't oregon aero get caught up in that...??? was a thread on here about it... let me go search

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    My Airtex seats are comfortable and I do 5-6 hr days all the time. Temperfoam in my J4 is great in the summer but hard as a concrete park bench on days liked today

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    Quote Originally Posted by mike mcs repair View Post
    what was the hassle with the FAA and seats a few years ago?? didn't oregon aero get caught up in that...??? was a thread on here about it... let me go search
    Something about FAA and PMS. Long time back, resolved now.
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    My Airtex seats are comfortable and I do 5-6 hr days all the time. Temperfoam in my J4 is great in the summer but hard as a concrete park bench on days liked today

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    Dumb question but does a person need to send their seat frame(s) to Oregon Aero or will they send you the finished cushions to install yourself given they have your exact seat info?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KevinJ View Post
    Dumb question but does a person need to send their seat frame(s) to Oregon Aero or will they send you the finished cushions to install yourself given they have your exact seat info?
    Last time I talked to Oregon about a set they needed the seat frames, something about their repair station license requirement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PA-22/20-160 View Post
    Last time I talked to Oregon about a set they needed the seat frames, something about their repair station license requirement.
    Only for intergal assemblies like a Cessna, for a Super Cub it’s snap off, snap on, log book and weight and balance you’re ready to go.

    kirby

    ps I’m about to send the my 180 seat assemblies...
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    Quote Originally Posted by OLDCROWE View Post
    Only for intergal assemblies like a Cessna, for a Super Cub it’s snap off, snap on, log book and weight and balance you’re ready to go.

    kirby

    ps I’m about to send the my 180 seat assemblies...
    When I talked with them it was clear on both ends that it was a supercub with only seat snaps but they still had to have the frames, no way around it at that time so I just ordered fine lines. Maybe they got the Feds to relax on that in the last couple years since I've tried to order but I've been happy with fine line so I have not tried again and they are about 1/2 the price
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    They told me they need the frames or the old covers.


    Quote Originally Posted by PA-22/20-160 View Post
    Last time I talked to Oregon about a set they needed the seat frames, something about their repair station license requirement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PA-22/20-160 View Post
    When I talked with them it was clear on both ends that it was a supercub with only seat snaps but they still had to have the frames, no way around it at that time so I just ordered fine lines. Maybe they got the Feds to relax on that in the last couple years since I've tried to order but I've been happy with fine line so I have not tried again and they are about 1/2 the price
    As I understand it the FAA was trying to claim that for Super Cub the cushion and frame were a “seat assembly”... but the factory snaps rule, just wish 180’s had snaps!

    My first seats were pre FAA problem and were rebuilt/modified (2.5 years ago) post ridiculous scrutiny.
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    They want your old cushions to comply with their repair station license.
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    I sent in my old cushions, but no frame. Initially, they said they wanted the frame, but I pointed out that the cushions snapped on. They said fine as long as they had the cushions. Which they returned with the new cushions.

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    Thanks for clearing that up. I guess this all means that after I send my cushions off to Oregon Aero and then get caught trying to “borrow” Joe Ws front seat I’ll end up sitting on an old hair caked Navajo saddle blanket until they come back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KevinJ View Post
    Thanks for clearing that up. I guess this all means that after I send my cushions off to Oregon Aero and then get caught trying to “borrow” Joe Ws front seat I’ll end up sitting on an old hair caked Navajo saddle blanket until they come back.
    Pretty much but you are use to it. I have cushions you can borrow while you wait.
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    I have my seat cover in at Oregon aero as we speak, err type. No seat frame necessary. I covered my seat frame with stits prior to ordering the new cover. David E at o.a. really liked that I took the time to find the perfect heiClick image for larger version. 

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    I would think that a set of seats for 'experimental' might take some of the trouble out.
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    Good point, OA also offers different thickness cushions. First time I had both the thick bottom and top in fabric, this time I got the thick bottom and thin back (for both the front and back) with a little extra lumbar support and leather which raises me up where I like to be and gives me a goood inch more leg room which I like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OLDCROWE View Post
    Good point, OA also offers different thickness cushions. First time I had both the thick bottom and top in fabric, this time I got the thick bottom and thin back (for both the front and back) with a little extra lumbar support and leather which raises me up where I like to be and gives me a goood inch more leg room which I like.
    I call bs on that. You got the thin back because your belly grew.


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    I’ve always just found a local upholster to do my seats. Supplied them with the correct materials.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveE View Post
    I call bs on that. You got the thin back because your belly grew.


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    Hey, no fair...I resemble that remark!
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    Quote Originally Posted by OLDCROWE View Post
    Hey, no fair...I resemble that remark!
    Good thing Eaton got those Richard Simmons DVDs.
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    Any competent upholsterer can adjust the foam thickness and composition to suit. Doug@Fine Line had me try my foam bases on for fit in the Wildcat before upholstering them. He always builds up the rear seat a little for my wife's comfort. Doug has done my last 8 airplane seats. Happy happy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gordon Misch View Post
    Oregon Aero treated me well, and I like the seats. Not to say they're the only good solution, but they are a good one.
    What kind of cost are we talking about with Oergon Aero?
    The seats in my 180 are getting a bit tattered,
    it'd be nice to have them done up with posture-pedic foam,
    maybe even some nice leather upholstery......
    but not if it comes at the same price as a Ponk engine!
    Looked at their website, no pricing info there,
    but of course with such a wide variety of options re materials & fanciness
    I guess it's pretty hard to list "standard" prices.

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    Replacing Seat Upholstery

    180 seats need to go to the shop for upholstering. No slip-on cushions like a Cub. At that point you may elect to refinish the bases and R&R the bushings, pins, and rollers, too. That adds up.


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    Quote Originally Posted by hotrod180 View Post
    What kind of cost are we talking about with Oergon Aero?
    The seats in my 180 are getting a bit tattered,
    it'd be nice to have them done up with posture-pedic foam,
    maybe even some nice leather upholstery......
    but not if it comes at the same price as a Ponk engine!
    Looked at their website, no pricing info there,
    but of course with such a wide variety of options re materials & fanciness
    I guess it's pretty hard to list "standard" prices.

    https://www.oregonaero.com/seating-s...ation-services
    I like the numbers involed in handicapping and sports wagering....whatever dollar amount you’re thinking, I’ll take the “overs”.
    Damn they’re comfortable however
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    Quote Originally Posted by hotrod180 View Post
    What kind of cost are we talking about with Oergon Aero?
    The seats in my 180 are getting a bit tattered,
    it'd be nice to have them done up with posture-pedic foam,
    maybe even some nice leather upholstery......
    but not if it comes at the same price as a Ponk engine!
    Looked at their website, no pricing info there,
    but of course with such a wide variety of options re materials & fanciness
    I guess it's pretty hard to list "standard" prices.

    https://www.oregonaero.com/seating-s...ation-services
    If I recall correctly it was in the "teens" for my -12. You're close enough to just fly down to Scappoose and talk with them. I am wanting to take mine back down to see about a slight modification to the front seat bottom. It's only about 1/2 hr or so flight for me.
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    I just got off the phone with Dave E at OA, for my 18 style seat, cloth, $738 less 10% since I talked to him at Oshkosh.
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    Well worth it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MT12 View Post
    I just got off the phone with Dave E at OA, for my 18 style seat, cloth, $738 less 10% since I talked to him at Oshkosh.
    Yes, Dave Esterline is the gentleman who worked with me. Good guy, very helpful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MT12 View Post
    I just got off the phone with Dave E at OA, for my 18 style seat, cloth, $738 less 10% since I talked to him at Oshkosh.
    That’s about what it would cost if you bought the material yourself and brought it to a local car/ boat upholsterer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gordon Misch View Post
    Yes, Dave Esterline is the gentleman who worked with me. Good guy, very helpful.
    Tell him to call Dr.Randy
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