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Likes: It's that time of year, let's be careful out there.
http://bangordailynews.com/2017/12/2...on-eagle-lake/
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It's that time of year, let's be careful out there.
http://bangordailynews.com/2017/12/2...on-eagle-lake/
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Probably looking for Rena and John F checking out the steam engines. Mark pissed them off. Better to land on Chamberlain and deal with the mud.
Glenn
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This seems to be pretty quiet in the news here, I've only seen it once and no pics just a partially submerged plane. when the last pilot had something happen with no damage it was on the news everyday for a month and cost him his job. I wonder how this will turn out?
[QUOTE=cubdriver2;704034]Probably looking for Rena and John F checking out the steam engines. Mark pissed them off. Better to land on Chamberlain and deal with the mud.
yeah--maybe he should stick to his canoe----LOL----Capt Cub
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Its 6 below zero and 10 kt winds right now at Eagle Lake. Where do you begin on this project?
jim
In the spring.Originally Posted by Scouter
Its 6 below zero and 10 kt winds right now at Eagle Lake. Where do you begin on this project?
jim
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They sure are careless with the taxpayer's 185.
N1PA
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Its 6 below zero and 10 kt winds right now at Eagle Lake. Where do you begin on this project?
jim
Big helicopter, chainsaw to cut around the plane, lift. Or, build a platform with a lifting tower and slide into place, hoist as you cut ice. move it to the side or front and then tent to thaw before moving.
I don't know where you've been me lad, but I see you won first Prize!
Maybe these reckless guys are for hire?
https://youtu.be/WBA7pjaVZQ0
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That will take a big helicopter to lift the roughly 6000 pounds of plane and ice. With the temperature being below zero it might do less damage to tie a buoy line to the lifting rings and let it settle to the bottom until spring. The water damage is already done.
N1PA
Your probably right. go cut it loose now before the ice crushes it and let it sink
Glenn
"Optimism is going after Moby Dick in a rowboat and taking the tartar sauce with you!"
Make a four legged rope bridle with a single lifting line to the buoy. Then in the spring use the State's Huey to lift the 185 to the surface while slowly towing it to shore. Then it can be carefully removed without further damage. The article did say that they have their own facility at the shore. Is there also a hangar?
N1PA
Better get a Blackhawk
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I was thinking the same thing.
Larry.
I believe it is sitting at the bottom of the lake now. Was told it is in 80' of water, but have not confirmed.
Larry
I heard thru the jungle drums they were going to float it with inflatable airbags. There are a couple of outfits here that recover cars and atvs and snowmobiles with divers and airbags.
Jeff Spencer is a good stick and a nice guy. I've spoken with him a couple times at thefuel pumps
I suppose the odds of getting in a tough spot go up considerably when you fly the hours off airport that these guys do.
They have had a couple 185s twisted up on skis the past few years, and had a guykilled in crappy wx in 2011
i hope Jeff comes looking for me if I end up in the Woods of Maine
jim
There but for the grace of good fortune go all of us. Spencer was lucky to get out. We'll all be out looking for any of our friends down in the winter in a heartbeat. In the summer we might let you sit for an overnight if all is otherwise ok, but this time of year is far more deadly than people think. Mainers will shortly be imperiling themselves with snowmobiles in the annual fracas of fractures and worse on a startling basis.
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Good idea
Must be nice to have unlimited money and use of aircraft
https://www.facebook.com/george.dumo...4309945053557/
We bow to the visionary from Jenks. Well played sir
Blackhawk indeed
jim
that's kinda cheating.... i figured they'd just build a tripod later after ice got better...
That was pretty cool to watch
It's only government money Mike.
N1PA
Meh. They got gobs of those things up the block here in Bangor. 'Bout time they found something more creative to do with them than come out and visit us on "return to service after maintenance" flights. Nice playthings with an unlimited credit card to fill them up. Good folk fly them, so kudos for them for punching through the reams of paperwork necessary to go save the Warden Service Cessna....
Maybe it will be on the Warden show I’ve been watching on tv. I see they had a section on the Maine Wardens.
Good training mission for the chopper. Leaving that Cessna gas and oil leaker in the pond might upset some folks and fish so best it's recovered.
Gary
4 of us landed there on floats and the Wardens threw us off for environmental reasons.
Glenn
"Optimism is going after Moby Dick in a rowboat and taking the tartar sauce with you!"
Rule #1: Never P or drain your sump in a fish pond with the Wardens watching. I've seen the TV series. It'd be hard to have much fun there.
Gary
Different eagle lake, this one way up north. Besides I thought you had Heather with you on choo choo search and she made it all better with warden/
jim
Ok, I was wondering, I didn't remember any houses on Eagle Lk. Heather wasn't with us. Her bodyguard Cody was with me and flew us up there.
Glenn
"Optimism is going after Moby Dick in a rowboat and taking the tartar sauce with you!"
Very good work on the recovery! Actually the recovery expense is less then it seems...
you already own the helicopter, it’s already staffed and maintained. You burnt some fuel but that may
have been used somewhere else anyway. All considered, no injuries, some good team work, and, as already pointed out, a great training exersize for real. Your 185 is in the hanger and likely will be ready on floats in the spring! A good lesson for the rest of us flying off frozen lakes- I need to be careful!
Roddy
Can't say for all but most lakes freeze along the edge first, and away from shore or in the middle last. Ice is thinner in spots further out from shore until later. Ask an ice fisher.
Edit: Not saying this happened here....but vehicles moving on ice create a pressure wave around them and can bend the ice below. That wave/depression can weaken the ice enough to let the vehicle submerge. A plane can T&G fast and not have a problem but can when slowing or turning. Watched it happen once at Chena Marina in Fairbanks in late spring. Helicopter recovery.
Gary
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I was extremely impressed with the helicopter piloting - especially how precisely the initial, incremental lift was accomplished as water drained from the Cessna.
Gordon
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Taxied across a thin portion of lake ice.
Gary
Folks, please take a moment to visit the thread that i just started which graphically demonstrates a method of what to do if we fall through the ice.
http://www.supercub.org/forum/showth...don-Giesbrecht
This scientist has conducted some excellent research on how to increase our chances of survival. I think it is a "must watch" video.
farmboy and Jim, thanks for the inspiration to start the thread on "what to do..."
Randy
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