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    Need Rubber strut seal for Cessna 185

    Hi,
    I am in need of a lower LH rubber strut seal for my C-185F.
    Cessna wants a ridiculous amount of money for a rubber gasket.

    Thanks for any help,
    Tom

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    might see if these guys are still open, their newer website is offline???

    http://specialtyresin.homestead.com/castingresins.html

    they are who i get my resins from... just make a wood mold or such...

    good book

    https://www.amazon.com/Cast-Small-Me.../dp/0830604146

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    Mike,
    Thank you,

    I am looking for a source of rubber gasket like material that I can make a seal like is original or find a used one.

    Tom

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom3holer View Post
    Mike,
    Thank you,

    I am looking for a source of rubber gasket like material that I can make a seal like is original or find a used one.

    Tom
    thats what I posted

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    Mike, He might not have one to cast a mold from.
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    Those rubber seals are missing as often as not. If you have your old ones you can overlay them in place with a careful application of good quality vinyl electrical tape and they'll look good and last for several years between applications. I always figured I could find a rubber molding at CRL or similar to fill in if I needed to but the tape has worked so well I haven't bothered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tcraft128 View Post
    Mike, He might not have one to cast a mold from.
    just carve a multi piece wood MDF mold and vaseline it... pretty quick... he's not gonna cut one out of a sheet stock... it' has many facets...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mike mcs repair View Post
    might see if these guys are still open, their newer website is offline???

    http://specialtyresin.homestead.com/castingresins.html

    they are who i get my resins from... just make a wood mold or such...

    good book

    https://www.amazon.com/Cast-Small-Me.../dp/0830604146
    their website is back up, must of been doing maintenance

    http://specialtyresin.com

    this would be the page you would want to pick from, (looks like they added many new types... order time for me...)

    https://specialtyresin.com/product-c...asting-resins/

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    Don't really want to get into making a mold for a gasket.
    I think I have found something that might work on Ebay a rubber car door seal whose dimensions seem to be about right. Ordered 2 feet and will report back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom3holer View Post
    Hi,
    I am in need of a lower LH rubber strut seal for my C-185F.
    Cessna wants a ridiculous amount of money for a rubber gasket.

    Thanks for any help,
    Tom
    he asks questions here again, ignores the replies we take time to research for him, again.... I almost din't bother replying because of past experience... I won't bother next time...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mike mcs repair View Post
    their website is back up, must of been doing maintenance

    http://specialtyresin.com

    this would be the page you would want to pick from, (looks like they added many new types... order time for me...)

    https://specialtyresin.com/product-c...asting-resins/
    Mike,
    Check out Flex Seal, it might work in this type of application. https://www.flexsealproducts.com/ Use the liquid in a mold or just use the tape as Stewart suggests. I bought a gallon of it at Lowes for my basement. Their TV ads make it look like real nice stuff.
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    Pete,

    Thanks for the suggestion I will look for it a Home Depot. Did spend some time on Amazon and Ebay and ordered several feet different rubber seal stuff. Mainly used in the automotive market but I am sure I read somewhere they were fully FAA authorized......

    Stewart, the problem is I don't have the original gasket. You mentioned CLR, where is that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom3holer View Post
    Mainly used in the automotive market but I am sure I read somewhere they were fully FAA authorized......
    For this application, you don't need to be concerned with "FAA authorized....".
    N1PA

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    Tom, if you find a gasket that works, post the solution so when people search the net for the same thing, it pops up. ( and it will save me from having to go mikes route when the 182 get to that point in the restoration)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom3holer View Post
    Cessna wants a ridiculous amount of money for a rubber gasket.
    Just for the public knowledge, what is this amount?
    N1PA

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    Sit down Pete....Its just over $400

    I absolutely will if I find a suitable solution.

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    Mike,
    I apologize, and do appreciate all you advice now and in the past. I just don't want to get into the process of trying to make a mold having no experience.

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    That doesn't surprise me Tom. I had to buy the bracket which holds the throttle and mixture controls to the engine when I threw out the turbo. It was a lot more than that AND whoever built it was looking at the drawing in a mirror. Fortunately I was able to alter it to work.
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    CRL is a storefront and auto glass parts supplier. Storefront glazing uses push-in rubber gaskets in all kinds of shapes. I figured I could find one to adapt to strut seals if and when I needed but electrical tape eliminated the need. Here's a link that shows some of the shapes. These are for bulk rolls. Find a local storefront or glazing contractor and see what they have laying around that might work, even if you have to trim part of it with a razor knife.

    http://www.glazingrubberproducts.com/gaskets/

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    That business about making amold etc kinda makes me think of someone looking for an exhaust system and someone else listing a source of tubing and welding machines.
    Not everyone has the savvy or the inclination to fabricate stuff that might just as easily just be purchased.
    Cessna Skywagon-- accept no substitute!

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    Mike sees solutions when others see dead ends. Like using liquid rubber to create parts that don't exist.

    http://wildcatcub.com/more-stuff.html
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    Not everyone has the savvy or the inclination to fabricate stuff that might just as easily just be purchased.
    Those are the people that have to pay the price or go without.

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    Another example of Mike's poured rubber solutions. How do you find a tapered gasket for the airbox to nose bowl? Make one. Mill a form, pour some rubber, install the custom part. Very cool.






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    Way above the level of my skills and equipment, I suspect the same is true of many others here.
    But if you're able, more power to you!
    Cessna Skywagon-- accept no substitute!

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    give a hungry man a fish, he will eat for a day... teach him to fish he will....

    show him how a couple bottles of goop can be anything he needs......

    sculptey? clay works well for molds too...

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    Not sure on price but have you considered speed fairings instead of the rubber from mcfarlane


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    Mike,
    Thanks for the suggestion and yes I have. They seem to cost around $350 for the lower pair which I will consider if the, yet to come, rubber strips don't work out.

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    Tom,
    McFarlane seems to imply that the same part number cuff is applicable to both the 180 & 185. The 180 & 185 have different lift struts. The 185 strut has a wider chord. I doubt that the same part will fit both planes. The 185 did not have fairings as an option from Cessna.
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    Stene makes split style lower strut cuffs for 185s for $145 a side.

    https://www.steneaviation.com/collec...el/cessna+185E
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    Quote Originally Posted by mike mcs repair View Post
    .....Not sure on price but have you considered speed fairings instead of the rubber from McFarlane
    I have an extra set of upper and lower strut fairings off a C180.
    They need a little attention due to minor cracks, but are serviceable and could easily be made to look very nice.
    I haven't thought much about selling them so don't know what I want for them, but it would be reasonable.
    PM me with your email if interested and I'll send you photos.
    I've never heard before this that the 180 & 185 struts are different dimensions,
    but I can measure them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hotrod180 View Post
    Way above the level of my skills and equipment, I suspect the same is true of many others here.
    But if you're able, more power to you!
    If something is above your level, make friends! lol.

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    To take it to an extreme, I've seen people post about "which plane should I buy".
    Invariably, someone posts "why not build a (bearhawk, supercub, S7, whatever)?"
    Personally the skills to build an airplane might be available, but the time to do so is not-
    so I'd rather buy. Ditto for manufacturing parts, usually.
    FWIW I seem to recall someone in the C180/185 Club having some strut seals for sale?
    Alternatively, Skywagon City or a less-type-specific salvage outfit might be a good place to look.
    Or hit it with some Dap and hide the evidence with a fairing.
    Cessna Skywagon-- accept no substitute!

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    I finally received the several types of gasket material extrusions in the mail. None of them would work to any degree.
    Decided to go with a set of split fairings. Does anyone have any experience and or suggestions on where to buy from and installation tips?

    Thanks,
    Tom

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    I kinda remember this, too, but recall that it was gear leg seals...

    Quote Originally Posted by hotrod180 View Post
    To take it to an extreme, I've seen people post about "which plane should I buy".
    Invariably, someone posts "why not build a (bearhawk, supercub, S7, whatever)?"
    Personally the skills to build an airplane might be available, but the time to do so is not-
    so I'd rather buy. Ditto for manufacturing parts, usually.
    FWIW I seem to recall someone in the C180/185 Club having some strut seals for sale?
    Alternatively, Skywagon City or a less-type-specific salvage outfit might be a good place to look.
    Or hit it with some Dap and hide the evidence with a fairing.

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    Stene Aviation split cuffs are great, high quality and easy to install.

    https://www.steneaviation.com/collections/composite-parts/products/sa-1227002-1145sp

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    Thanks,
    I have decided to get the split Stene lower cuffs.
    I also have heard good reports and it looks fairly easy to install.
    Now I just have to find where to get teflon tape.

    Tom

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    been years since i looked in a cessna, any fuel lines you need to worry about in that area drilling?? i forget where the front ones run

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