McCauley brakes on a C-185

Tom3holer

MEMBER

Cape Cod

• Jul 7, 2016

• #1

I am looking at a 185 to purchase and have asked a planeload of questions and have another one.

I see most brakes have been changed to Cleveland's. The plane I am looking at has the older McCauley brakes and I am wondering why most seem to upgrade to the Cleveland. Is it an issue with parts or something else?

Thanks,

Tom

 

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CKearns

FRIEND

• Jul 7, 2016

• #2

Tom,

When we bought our 1976 180J it had a set of mismatched Cleveland wheels with the original McCauley brake calipers. The logs indicated that one of the McCauley wheels had developed cracks and both were replaced with Clevelands. After researching I found out there evidently was a history of the McCauley wheel failures and thus most have been replaced with Clevelands with the vast majority being changed out as a precaution from what I have gathered. Anyway with the STC'd wheel and brake pricing from Cleveland we went ahead and replaced the entire setup. By the way the McCauley calipers worked fine and were effective enough to pick the tail up if you wanted to.

 

gbflyer

Registered User

PAGS

• Jul 7, 2016

• #3

Experience with the McCauley on C185 coming apart and locking wheel. The caliper basically exploded. Landing was on grass so it could have been worse. Upgrade to Cleveland before next flight. Was it a fluke or previous damage? I don't know.

Can't speak to any other experience.

 

Tom3holer

MEMBER

Cape Cod

• Jul 7, 2016

• #4

Thanks,

The Cleveland conversion kit is around $1800 which isn't so bad.

 

mike mcs repair

Registered User

chugiak AK

• Jul 7, 2016

• #5

might also check http://www.airframesalaska.com/PMA-Replacement-Cleveland-Wheels-and-Brakes-s/1513.htm

 

skywagon8a

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SE Mass MA6

• Jul 7, 2016

• #6

Tom,
The 185 that you are looking at is of the vintage which had a bulletin to replace the wheel hubs on the McCauley wheels. Cessna supplied the parts for free. Though since "your" airplane immediately went on floats and was there for years there is no guarantee that you have the original landing gear. I think that I have one of those kits in my attic?

 

algonquin

MEMBER

Seldovia,Ak

• Jul 7, 2016

• #7

The normal swap is to a 199-62 Cleveland kit. Price them at Alaska Bush Wheels, and anywhere else you find them. They are all the same so price is the game. A couple of years ago I paid $1695.00 for them with ABW's.

 

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stewartb

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• Jul 7, 2016

• #8

Don't worry about it. Throw $100K into that $100K plane and you'll have a decent $150K Skywagon!

 

Tom3holer

MEMBER

Cape Cod

• Jul 8, 2016

• #9

So true

 

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wheatfarmer1

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Creston, Wa.

• Jul 8, 2016

• #10

There's a good looking 182 tailwheel conversion on Missoula, Mt. Craigslist that you might want to check out. Pat

 

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OLDCROWE

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Meanwhile,...

• Jul 8, 2016

• #11

Tom3holer said:

So true

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Hurry up and join the Cessna preservationist club, its just money

 

hotrod180

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Port Townsend, WA

• Jul 8, 2016

• #12

algonquin said:

The normal swap is to a 199-62 Cleveland kit. Price them at Alaska Bush Wheels, and anywhere else you find them. They are all the same so price is the game. A couple of years ago I paid $1695.00 for them with ABW's.

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ABW 199-62A kit (6-bolt wheels): $1995
ABW 199-62 kit (3-bolt wheels): $1665

http://www.airframesalaska.com/PMA-Replacement-Cleveland-Wheels-and-Brakes-s/1513.htm

FWIW according to AA's website, the Cleveland wheels are magnesium where the ABW wheels are aluminum. Don't know the weight difference, but unless it was substantial I think I'd just as soon have aluminum.