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    Canít argue with you on that, but I have to play their game. Iíve been fortunate that my FAA advisor knows I know what Iím doing, and to date hasnít denied a field approval request (except for gross weight increase).


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    Just paid $574 for 4 -5/8" Univair strut forks....they had to be the J3 style.....ouch. I wonder why some of the J3 stuff costs more than Supercub? oh well. Do most of you use pressure caps on your fuel tanks? Mine is a headerless system (2-18 gallon Tanks). I think I would rather have it that way....if so, I need new caps. I need to order a bunch of stuff and take a week off to finish the hanger inside, then another to get as much of this plane finished up....so many little details to complete. My metal came for the ceiling of my hangar today...so time to focus. Had to roll her out today to stack the metal inside...I looks more doner than it is
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    75% done with 75% left to do! Looks good though!

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    Those caps a simple to convert with either brake line or copper tubing. I never had a Piper wing tank that needed them though. Champ wing tanks are a different story

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    Never heard of "J3 style" strut forks. As long as the threads are the same pitch they all fit the same way.

    And yes, you definitely are supposed to have pressure caps on a headerless system.

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    J3 strut fork is a different part number....the mounting holes on the fuselage are smaller??? And an 1/8” closer together...Somebody correct me if wrong...J3 has 5/16” holes 7/8” apart....Supercub has holes on fuselage attach points 1” apart bigger bolt hole. I’ve been wrong before though.
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    Correct Dan. I used a larger one in the front (S. cub style) and a J-3 one in the rear. The front one on the fus. I was using had a bushing in the front hole that I just punched out. When I built the new fus. a couple years ago I used the bigger fus. fitting and could use both 3/8 forks.
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    https://www.globalplasticsheeting.co...plastic-sheets

    I just got some of this stuff for my interior....good flame retardant properties, light, easy to work with?.....I'll let you know how easy and durabilty is unknown....I plan to to glue some light material over it for high class looks lol. I should just go around and ask everyone for their election signs....cheap interior. same stuff. I think I'll actually try to burn some first and see what happens.
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    The stuff the political signs are made from burns and melts into a mess...the FR treated stuf self extinguishes and looks like it might be a winner. I will put some nice grey fabric on it and i can cut this stuff wherever and use the fabric as a means to splice and make angle transitions to bring it all together. I better start shopping for a DAR to do my inspection.....in April? I wonder if I should call the FSDO first...trouble is....my FSDO is in Grand Rapids, MI almost 8 hrs drive....Milwaukee, WI FSDO is 4 hrs away. Ant advice from you guys "In the know" on this?

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    Just talked to our very own SC.org member Joe Norris, DAR ....He will be available when I need my inspection.....He's from Oshkosh which is only 3 hrs away...His long time ownership and affiliation with Cubs will be to my benefit. I better get cracking and finish her up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Gervae View Post
    The stuff the political signs are made from burns and melts into a mess...the FR treated stuf self extinguishes and looks like it might be a winner. I will put some nice grey fabric on it and i can cut this stuff wherever and use the fabric as a means to splice and make angle transitions to bring it all together. I better start shopping for a DAR to do my inspection.....in April? I wonder if I should call the FSDO first...trouble is....my FSDO is in Grand Rapids, MI almost 8 hrs drive....Milwaukee, WI FSDO is 4 hrs away. Ant advice from you guys "In the know" on this?
    Initial certification can be either a MIDO or FSDO. If using a DAR, no need to talk to the FAA first, just contact the DAR and get all the info from him. DAR-F is MIDO, DAR-T is FSDO. Keep in mind, with a DAR, you pay, while with the FAA it comes out of your taxes.most DARs can fit you in the schedule within a couple weeks, with the FAA it will likely be 6 months or longer before they can get to you.


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    Snorkel caps are over kill in your application. Actually not really needed on a 150 hp unless you want to meet the FAA requirements for fuel flow. Test it to be sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Pierce View Post
    Snorkel caps are over kill in your application. Actually not really needed on a 150 hp unless you want to meet the FAA requirements for fuel flow. Test it to be sure.

    i have CubCrafter headerless fuel system on my J-3 with two 18 gallon tanks. It was installed by Cubcrafter when they owned the plane years ago and while the STC is included in the paperwork, and it is appropriately signed off, the STC information is not with the plane. I have requested from CC the complete paperwork but never have received it. It does not have snorkel caps. My 18 has the same headerless fuel system and I have that paperwork which calls for Cubcrafter caps part numbers 101716-31 which are snorkel caps. The J-3 has only a C-90 in it. I’m not sure if I should have the snorkel caps on the J-3 or not. Does anyone know if they are required on a J-3 with that STC? I gues that’s a question fo CC.

    I did put stainless screens over the ends of the snorkels on my 18.

    Thoughts on the snorkel requirement on the J-3?

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    Quote Originally Posted by reliableflyer View Post
    i have CubCrafter headerless fuel system on my J-3 with two 18 gallon tanks. It was installed by Cubcrafter when they owned the plane years ago and while the STC is included in the paperwork, and it is appropriately signed off, the STC information is not with the plane. I have requested from CC the complete paperwork but never have received it. It does not have snorkel caps. My 18 has the same headerless fuel system and I have that paperwork which calls for Cubcrafter caps part numbers 101716-31 which are snorkel caps. The J-3 has only a C-90 in it. I’m not sure if I should have the snorkel caps on the J-3 or not. Does anyone know if they are required on a J-3 with that STC? I gues that’s a question fo CC.

    I did put stainless screens over the ends of the snorkels on my 18.

    Thoughts on the snorkel requirement on the J-3?
    CAR Part 3:
    "ß 3.434 Fuel flow rate for gravity feedsystems. The fuel flow rate for gravity feedsystems (main and reserve supply) shall be 1.2pounds per hour for each take-off horsepower or150 percent of the actual take-off fuelconsumption of the engine, whichever is greater."

    Those snorkel caps are to ensure an adequate fuel flow for higher fuel consumption engines. Your C-90's fuel requirement isn't high enough to need the added push of the snorkel pressure.
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    I think the CubCrafters STC covers PA-18’s, and was shown to be compatible with your J-3 with a PA-18 fuel system. Since the STC requires the snorkel caps I think you’d need a variance to remove them...
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    Quote Originally Posted by mam90 View Post
    I think the CubCrafters STC covers PA-18’s, and was shown to be compatible with your J-3 with a PA-18 fuel system. Since the STC requires the snorkel caps I think you’d need an exception to remove them...
    Mark, The two airplanes are under two different Type Certificates. They will require two different STCs even though the parts may be the same. If they happen to be on the same STC, there would be specific requirements listed for the use of the caps on each model of airplane.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skywagon8a View Post
    CAR Part 3:
    "ß 3.434 Fuel flow rate for gravity feedsystems. The fuel flow rate for gravity feedsystems (main and reserve supply) shall be 1.2pounds per hour for each take-off horsepower or150 percent of the actual take-off fuelconsumption of the engine, whichever is greater."

    Those snorkel caps are to ensure an adequate fuel flow for higher fuel consumption engines. Your C-90's fuel requirement isn't high enough to need the added push of the snorkel pressure.
    J-3 was built under the CAR 4 regulations. Not sure if CAR 3 is applicable.

    Also when an STC is deemed by the holder to be acceptable I believe it can be used on a different plane in some circumstances. For example a J-3 with an 18 rear seat may use at the holders discretion an under 18 rear seat storage compartment or with an 18 front seat may use an under front seat battery STC I think.

    All this is written as question rather than as a statement. I have seen it done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reliableflyer View Post
    J-3 was built under the CAR 4 regulations. Not sure if CAR 3 is applicable.

    Also when an STC is deemed by the holder to be acceptable I believe it can be used on a different plane in some circumstances. For example a J-3 with an 18 rear seat may use at the holders discretion an under 18 rear seat storage compartment or with an 18 front seat may use an under front seat battery STC I think.

    All this is written as question rather than as a statement. I have seen it done.
    Not for the sake of argument, but that won't fly for me as an IA, and I am not hard to get along with at all. The STC for such as you are referring to would have to have the aircraft model listed on the eligibility list. If the aircraft model is listed you are good to go.
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    It would be nice if some of that type of thing could be done, and no harm in most cases, but it would be most difficult to do with a straight face.
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    Quote Originally Posted by reliableflyer View Post
    J-3 was built under the CAR 4 regulations. Not sure if CAR 3 is applicable. .
    Understood, I didn't have Part 4 in front of me. However I doubt there is any or much difference in this requirement.
    Supercrow is correct on your other question. Some people seem to think they can get away with that thought process, they are wrong. They just haven't been caught.
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    Quote Originally Posted by supercrow View Post
    It would be nice if some of that type of thing could be done, and no harm in most cases, but it would be most difficult to do with a straight face.
    It can be done, either as a field approval, or as a DER approval as a deviation to the STC. In any case, each STCis only applicable to the specific model or models if an AML STC, and in some cases, specific serials within a model.

    You will find a lot of STCs for J3C-65, but they canít be used (by themselves) for J3L or J3F series airplanes since they arenít listed on the STC.

    All that said, the topic of this thread is building an experimental PA-11, and in that case, since it isnít a Standard certificate the OP doesnít need to concern himself with compliance with STCs and such.


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    I had hoped the new proposed weight increase for Light Sport would have become effective by the time I certified this airplane since the plans allow 1400lb gross weight, but as it stands, I guess I should probably certify at 1320. I'm a Private Pilot, and Basic Med is still a thing..... but I do have a CFI-SP, so if I wanted to instruct my Children (who are now grown), or grandchildren down the road should they become interested, I could....It's too bad though....that extra little bit would be nice....I mean, I'll never fly it at 1400lbs....no way ahem. If I really believed it would happen....I might go ahead and give myself that extra 80lbs useful, but I won't bank on the FAA getting it done.
    https://generalaviationnews.com/2020...hanges-to-lsa/

    That being said, I got some usefull stuff done today...I installed a 3 position switch for my master, off/batt/alt, all in one nice little toggle switch that cost less than $5 bucks....it's an idea I got from a Kitplanes article....I like it. I drilled out the .125 copper buss bar for my breakers and the darn screws are too short....typical, I should have found some .0625 thick bar i guess. New scews coming up. I fooled around with that corrugated platic I bought for the interior...I think it's going to work out nicely. I glued some fabric on a piece and really kicked it around....pretty tuff, and very light. I only have the one fuel line feft to make (the flex line from the steve's gascolator to the carb)....do you guys put fire sleeve on?? I didn't on my J3...just wondering if it's worth grabbing some? I put a rubber windshield strip on (I read a bunch of threads on here) and chose to do it that way, but I have a rubber L shaped strip rivited all along the inside with the rubber channel like a Zenith uses around the bottom of the windshield. I saw a few that didn't do the inside L piece but I like having that contained all the way around, If later I don't like it, I'll put the traditional strip in there (or I'll play with fiberglass and lay one up)...I think it will be fine though. I have surplus Piper Colt fuel tanks that are in nice shape, but they need new gaskets for the fuel senders...I ordered them up today and was wondering if I should do some testing on the senders....are these a common problem area? I should hook them up and see if they move with the darn float, and make sure the float floats....I've got quite a bit of time in a colt and don't remember my buddy having trouble with his in the last 30+ years....just wondering? A leak would be crappy. As I said before, I have the headerless system so ports on front and back of tanks....I will leak check all of this, and do FAA flow test which I'm sure will be fine....Thanks for the info on the caps....the pressure one's I was going to get were $45 each..the plain vented caps are about $10....good stuff.
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    Senders can be checked with an ohmmeter. If you have brass floats, dunk them in fuel for a few days, then shake them to see if they slosh. If they do, they leak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wireweinie View Post
    Senders can be checked with an ohmmeter. If you have brass floats, dunk them in fuel for a few days, then shake them to see if they slosh. If they do, they leak.

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    I tested my fuel senders in my old PA-22 tanks and one was bad..,I looked around and they are over $300 on all of the aviation supply houses. They look an awful lot like thesehttps://www.classictruck.com/product...and_Fuel_Items though..in fact, they are these, since I’m experimental I ordered some.

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    Building an Experimental PA11

    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Gervae View Post
    I had hoped the new proposed weight increase for Light Sport would have become effective by the time I certified this airplane since the plans allow 1400lb gross weight, but as it stands, I guess I should probably certify at 1320. I'm a Private Pilot, and Basic Med is still a thing..... but I do have a CFI-SP, so if I wanted to instruct my Children (who are now grown), or grandchildren down the road should they become interested, I could....It's too bad though....that extra little bit would be nice....I mean, I'll never fly it at 1400lbs....no way ahem. If I really believed it would happen....I might go ahead and give myself that extra 80lbs useful, but I won't bank on the FAA getting it done.
    https://generalaviationnews.com/2020...hanges-to-lsa/

    That being said, I got some usefull stuff done today...I installed a 3 position switch for my master, off/batt/alt, all in one nice little toggle switch that cost less than $5 bucks....it's an idea I got from a Kitplanes article....I like it. I drilled out the .125 copper buss bar for my breakers and the darn screws are too short....typical, I should have found some .0625 thick bar i guess. New scews coming up. I fooled around with that corrugated platic I bought for the interior...I think it's going to work out nicely. I glued some fabric on a piece and really kicked it around....pretty tuff, and very light. I only have the one fuel line feft to make (the flex line from the steve's gascolator to the carb)....do you guys put fire sleeve on?? I didn't on my J3...just wondering if it's worth grabbing some? I put a rubber windshield strip on (I read a bunch of threads on here) and chose to do it that way, but I have a rubber L shaped strip rivited all along the inside with the rubber channel like a Zenith uses around the bottom of the windshield. I saw a few that didn't do the inside L piece but I like having that contained all the way around, If later I don't like it, I'll put the traditional strip in there (or I'll play with fiberglass and lay one up)...I think it will be fine though. I have surplus Piper Colt fuel tanks that are in nice shape, but they need new gaskets for the fuel senders...I ordered them up today and was wondering if I should do some testing on the senders....are these a common problem area? I should hook them up and see if they move with the darn float, and make sure the float floats....I've got quite a bit of time in a colt and don't remember my buddy having trouble with his in the last 30+ years....just wondering? A leak would be crappy. As I said before, I have the headerless system so ports on front and back of tanks....I will leak check all of this, and do FAA flow test which I'm sure will be fine....Thanks for the info on the caps....the pressure one's I was going to get were $45 each..the plain vented caps are about $10....good stuff.
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    You are likely looking at at least another 5 years before they change the Sport Pilot rules. It hasnít been out as an NPRM yet, and they typically take about 3 years to adjudicate the comments.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Gervae View Post
    I tested my fuel senders in my old PA-22 tanks and one was bad..,I looked around and they are over $300 on all of the aviation supply houses. They look an awful lot like thesehttps://www.classictruck.com/product...and_Fuel_Items though..in fact, they are these, since I’m experimental I ordered some.
    Piper used whatever was available back then. Model A ford parts, boiler sight glass.........

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    I always wondered what the term “Pay the Piper” Meant...Wife walks into the hanger while I’m up on a ladder wiring lights as I install new ceiling metal....she walks around the giant pile of insulation and says: “You’ve been buying lots of airplane parts and hangar material lately”...I look down at her thinking...uh oh. Her: “I think you should come down and take me furniture shopping this afternoon”.....Me: “Yes Dear” gotta pay the Piper. Lol
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    I could have bought a lot of airplane parts with what we ended up spending. Cheap in the long run though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Gervae View Post
    I had hoped the new proposed weight increase for Light Sport would have become effective by the time I certified this airplane since the plans allow 1400lb gross weight, but as it stands, I guess I should probably certify at 1320. I'm a Private Pilot, and Basic Med is still a thing..... but I do have a CFI-SP, so if I wanted to instruct my Children (who are now grown), or grandchildren down the road should they become interested, I could....It's too bad though....that extra little bit would be nice....
    Dan,

    You could do it at 1320 now, and will always have the option of raising the gross weight later if you so choose. Your operating limitations will include a provision for incorporating a "major change". A gross weight increase would constitute a major change and would involve some additional flight testing, but it can be done. So if they up the gross weight for sport-pilot operations at some time in the future, or if you just want to go BasicMed and forget sport pilot, you will always have that option. We will discuss this when we do your inspection.
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