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    Seaplane Help in NY

    We need a little help in the Adirondacks. If you have a minute take a look and help out.

    Glenn




    Letters needed to help seaplanes in the Adirondack Mountains

    by Tim McCormack » Mon Dec 01, 2014 9:08 pm
    As some of you might remember we lost access to Lows Lake, one of the biggest lakes in the Adirondack Park of New York State, a few years ago due to the efforts of the "paddlers" to keep us from (quote) "destroying their wilderness experience". Some of us fought pretty hard, but we got nothing more than a last minute, lousy letter from the SPA in our support ( which is one of the reasons I no longer belong) so, we lost.


    The Adirondack Park Agency (APA) is now considering making more changes to the Master Plan for the park and it's an opportunity for us to voice our interest in keeping, and expanding, our access to the lakes in the Park. Please give us a little help in showing that there are some of us who want to visit the beautiful lakes in the Park on an equal basis with all the other "special interest" groups. Send a short note to
    SLMP_Comments@apa.ny.gov,


    The written comments must be in by this Friday, December 5th so DO IT NOW WHILE YOU'RE THINKING OF IT!!!!!!. Please send me a copy of your note so I can keep it for future reference at one of their hearings. ceeplane@aol.com I've attached mine.


    It doesn't have to be long or elaborate, but input is crucial. We need a note from every one of us to go to the APA at SLMP_Comments@apa.ny.gov



    Here's the link to the APA website:

    http://www.apa.ny.gov/





    And here's the press release by the APA:

    http://www.apa.ny.gov/Press/pressreleas ... easeID=510






    Sample letters already posted



    December 1, 2014

    To: Deputy Director, Planning Kathy Regan

    Re: APSLMP changes


    As I'm sure you know, seaplane pilots and passengers have been greatly restricted in the Adirondack Park over the years, with the most recent issue being exclusion from Lows Lake. Without reopening the wounds from that discriminatory decision, suffice it to say that even the promise of an "alternate" to Lows Lake for seaplanes has never materialized.

    I urge you to be considerate of us who enjoy the great Adirondacks from a seaplane and to find ways to keep the lakes available to us that are already non-restricted, and to find new ones that can be added to the list.


    Tim McCormack
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    December 2nd, 2014

    To: Deputy Director, Planning Kathy Regan

    Re: APSLMP changes

    Dear Ms. Regan;

    As a seaplane pilot living in "Down State" New York, it has been increasingly difficult to find bodies of water where I can enjoy seaplane operations. For that reason, I have over the years, traveled more than 200 miles to have access to lakes and rivers where I could enjoy both seaplane flying and the great outdoors. As I'm sure you know, seaplane pilots and passengers have been greatly restricted in the Adirondack Park over the years as well in sections of the Hudson River where the river co-exists with the New York Canal System.

    As the new Master Plan emerges, I urge you to be considerate of us who enjoy the great Adirondacks from a seaplane and to find ways to keep the lakes available to us that are already non-restricted, and to find new ones that can be added to the list.

    Robert P. Kittine, Jr.
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    Would it also be helpful to include ski plane flying access also along with the references to seaplanes or would that be out of line? Quite a few large number of folks in that group too.

    JG

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoorJoe View Post
    Glenn
    Would it also be helpful to include ski plane flying access also along with the references to seaplanes or would that be out of line? Quite a few large number of folks in that group too.

    JG
    The paddlers for some reason don't bother us much in the winter. Anything you want to write Joe is greatly appreciated

    Glenn

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poor Joe View Post
    Glenn
    Would it also be helpful to include ski plane flying access also along with the references to seaplanes or would that be out of line? Quite a few large number of folks in that group too.

    JG
    Tactically any reference to ski & seaplanes will be helpful, the master plan will affect any user-group that operates any sort of aircraft within the jurisdictional boundaries of APA. Many of us haven't had the time to read in detail how and where there are changes and hidden problems in the 130+ page master plan, honestly, many are rather surprised and a bit blind-sighted as this literally popped up out of nowhere... It certainly doesn't help to have absolutely no coordination and less than 2 days left. But at least the wheels are beginning to spin. The ultimate goal is to ban, prohibit and prevent motorized access and if we haven't learned our lessons from the loss of Lows Lake, eventually the Adriondacks will be gone for good.

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    Perhaps a reminder of New York's contribution to aviation history, the Curtiss Aircraft Co., seaplanes, Glenn H. Curtiss, Curtis Flying Boats,Click image for larger version. 

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ID:	17999 and Hammondsport, NY would be of some influence? jrh
    You can't get there from here. You have to go over yonder and start from there.

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    Letter sent.

    Does anyone have quick access to Congressman Hanna? I believe he is a seaplane owner and pilot!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poor Joe View Post
    Letter sent.

    Does anyone have quick access to Congressman Hanna? I believe he is a seaplane owner and pilot!
    Yea I got his cell. I'll do it in the morning with the Bull brothers.

    Done

    Glenn
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    Got some RAF support today. SPA has been a little sloooooooooooooow, again

    Glenn

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    Glenn
    Russ Holland sent out a nice request to RAF members for their support on this. Hopefully this will get some response.
    Thanks for your help Russ!!

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