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    Vintage Airplane DER

    The Fleet Canuck has run into a snag. The US Type Certificate shows
    a C85-12FJ or fuel injected (ExCellO) and the Canadian Type Certificate
    has been updated over the years to a Stromberg carb. Not able to find
    any documentation to support this.
    I'm thinking a Vintage DER could help, but apparently I've honked off the
    only one I know.
    Anybody else have a contact or idea?
    Thanks,
    Dave

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    http://www.dc65stc.blogspot.com/ I have never actually used this fellow but did communicate with him about a project I once had. He seemed reasonable is all I can offer. Jim

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    Jim,
    That's the guy I apparently honked off.
    Used him on another project, now he won't answer
    my calls or e-mails.
    Dave

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    Dave, it's a shame to burn a bridge by accident, I always enjoy stoking the fire. Google? EAA? Good luck, Jim

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    I'm not quite sure what you are looking for? Will this Canadian Type Certificate help? http://wwwapps.tc.gc.ca/saf-sec-sur/...p%3bid_num=932

    It shows the approval to convert from injection to carburetor.

    This is the U S Type Cert.
    http://rgl.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgMakeModel.nsf/0/4193a81005ef170285256737004cfdd9/$FILE/ATT741NZ/TC788.pdf
    If that doesn't work try this: http://rgl.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Gu...meset?OpenPage

    You should be able to take these two documents to your local FSDO to show compliance. Canadian approvals "should" be accepted in the US. Why do you think that you need a DAR?
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    We have a Canadian Export Certificate, saying it meets it Type Certificate.
    The problem is the TCDS don't match, and the US would amend theirs if the
    owner of the Type Certificate would ask. The owner of the Type Certificate in
    Canada is no longer around/dead.
    Looks like a one time STC to incorporate the C85-12F in place of
    the C85-12FJ, ugh.
    Dave

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    It isn't a HP change so why are they making a big deal. Canadian TCDS not acceptable data? You might call the FSDO manager and ask where the common sense is. Worked for me once. I would point out the availability of the ExcellO stuff.
    Steve Pierce

    Everybody is ignorant, only on different subjects.
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    Steve,
    My guy that I'm working with is great, I think he was feeling
    really bad when he called with this news. Apparently the Aircraft Certification
    Office stepped in with this news. I thought I was all set for next Friday conformity check.
    Terry Bowden said this was no problem, done in two weeks, that was three months ago and he
    won't return messages. Thinking another Vintage DER could handle it. Weren't you looking into
    that at onetime?
    Dave

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    I heard there was only two. I got one guy to agree to do some brake stuff - he quoted a price and I planned to double it. I said "go", who should I make the check out to - numerous e- mails later he has not responded. Hope he is not sick.

    Alterations are a lost cause. Opinion.

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    Geez Bob,
    Aren't you just a ray of sunshine. (Kidding)
    I thought this would be a fairly easy import since
    it already had a US Type Certificate.
    Dave

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    You should hear the horror story a buddy has of just trying to import a stock Taylorcraft. I think they were seriously considering sending him to Guantanamo. I think the airplane is still in Canada.

    Spotted a really nice PA-11 on eBay from Ontario. 34K US. No way . . .

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    I've used Terry in the past with mixed results. He's a good guy, but he's bad about getting back with people. The best way to get his attention is to post it on the taylorcraft forum. That was how I finally got the paperwork that he owed me.

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    Terry Bowden is your man - I used home recently for a similar process. All good.

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    Went and spent the day at the FSDO,
    paperwork submitted to Aircraft Certification Office.
    We will see how long this takes.
    Tried getting in touch with Terry, three different ways, no reply.
    I would hope there is a good reason for his silence.
    Dave

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