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    Quote Originally Posted by learntolandshort View Post
    Here are some that I have made specifically for such reasons.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=578u...iRRhwzlQMxTUCv

    I would be curious if you find them helpful.
    I went out today and used your approach techniques. Best short field landings I have made to date. Also used the potato counts on takeoff and loved it. Thank you!

    adding 15 mph for a wheel landing is nuts! Who teaches that?

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    The point I was trying to make is that a typical wheel landing is tail high into a headwind to keep the AOA negative on a gusty day. Thats what i was taught and thats what i watch the P51 and others do at Oshkosh. To me a tail low approach is a 3pt attitude pushed over to a wheel landing. As for CW, up to about 25 mph, above that I'm landing cross runway. Who adds 15 mph to a wheel landing, that day I came back home last month and was fired walled doing 90 airspeed on short final and the gps showing 40mph gs, I would have kept it fire walled all the way down if it hadn't calmed down 100' up. I don't do wheel landings in a CW. I don't have flaps so it's a wing into the wind full slip about 3 mph over stall on and off the throttle till the upwind tire and TW grabs the ground and 2pt to taxi. Don't know if its right but it works for me. Shoot away

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lefoy84 View Post
    I went out today and used your approach techniques. Best short field landings I have made to date. Also used the potato counts on takeoff and loved it. Thank you!

    adding 15 mph for a wheel landing is nuts! Who teaches that?

    Eddie
    That is excellent I am glad you found them helpful. Thank you for the feed back!

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    I'm just starting to learn wheel landings, after doing 3 pts exclusively. My instructor had me at 55 mph on final for 3 pts, 59 (60) mph for wheel landings. Previously I had used 50 mph on final, but the descent profile was pretty steep. The higher approach speeds give me a nicer descent. But that 4 - 5 mph faster for a wheel landing seems like jet speed! Yes, I got my TW endorsement without having done a wheel landing - I think the instructor didn't like doing them and didn't want to teach them.

    Hanging out at the airport the other day after my BFR and attempted wheel landings, heard this from the old fart's corner: Wheel landings are better than sex (and everyone agreed). Never heard anyone say that about 3 pt landings, so I guess that settles the question of which is better, eh?

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    Did you fly out west Anne?

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    The "Old Fart's" corner must have been occupied by women because no man I know would say that ending a flight is better than sex.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stewartb View Post
    The "Old Fart's" corner must have been occupied by women because no man I know would say that ending a flight is better than sex.
    Give it twenty years and get back to me.

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    "no man would say that ending a flight is better than sex"
    I think the key part is "ending a flight", because while ending a flight doesn't take that--I mean a flight can last longer than---nevermind

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    Quote Originally Posted by CuBob View Post
    Did you fly out west Anne?
    No, airlined it out there. Weather, lack of recent flight experience, and that I *had* to be there by a certain date, all came together to bring me to my senses. I still want to do this flight, though. I'll see how the rest of the summer after Oshkosh stacks up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stewartb View Post
    The "Old Fart's" corner must have been occupied by women because no man I know would say that ending a flight is better than sex.
    It was about 50/50. Knowing the originator, I think he was referring more to the finesse of the operation (but I could be wrong). The way he was talking about wheel landings in the plane during the lesson, I'm glad my airplane is tandem.

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    And umm, Anne, you still owe us a Trip Report from the WSS. Saw some nice soaring XC flight traces posted on the OLC, and great reports from the local Liars Bench attributed to attendees

    Thanks. cubscout

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anne View Post
    ... Wheel landings are better than sex...Anne.
    And more frequent.

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    Hopefully the statute of limitations is up. As I understand it, wheel landings, along with full stall, crosswinds, and go-arounds, are part of what an instructor signs off as proficient.

    However, if he had you doing approaches at 50, he was probably a pretty good instructor.

    I teach approaches the same way whether the end will be wheel, full stall, or something close to both. In the beginning I have the student add just a touch of power, and feel for the runway. I demonstrate how to turn a full stall landing into a wheel landing. They can practice that after the sign off.

    I had one student discover that wheel landings at 60 were smoother, and she stopped doing full stalls. I made her stop wheel landings until she once again mastered the tailwheel first landing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cubscout View Post
    And umm, Anne, you still owe us a Trip Report from the WSS. Saw some nice soaring XC flight traces posted on the OLC, and great reports from the local Liars Bench attributed to attendees

    Thanks. cubscout
    Thanks for asking, cubscout! This was at Minden NV, our annual WSPA (Women's Soaring Pilots Association) seminar, June 15-19 this year. It was a great week, with my highest ever flight in a glider (or a small airplane for that matter) at 13,000', my longest glider flight (2:08 hrs), and the highest performance glider I've flown yet (a Duo Discus), all in one flight skirting Lake Tahoe while looking for mountain wave (we didn't find it). Flying gliders has made me more aware of the finer points of coordination and landing finesse, and besides, it's pretty cool to stay up courtesy of Mother Nature!

    #1: Above the Pine Nuts finding some awesome thermals. #2: Jim & Jackie Payne talking about the Perlan Project. #3: Four Ladies Love Taildraggers at the WSPA seminar in front of a Libelle (a taildragger glider!). #4: The mountain wave Thursday evening that got us all excited about flying Friday morning, but unfortunately it had mostly calmed down overnight. #5: In the Duo Discus peeking over the rim at Lake Tahoe.
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    Last edited by Anne; 07-08-2015 at 09:57 AM. Reason: add photo info
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    Libelle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jhilgard View Post
    Libelle?
    Yes, a Libelle. She was flown down from Air Sailing in NV to Minden. Belongs to a friend of mine, flown down by another friend (the one on the right in the picture). Nice XC in a glider over the mountains.

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