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    Will Cessna 210 aileron fit on Cessna 180?

    Will aileron from 61 Cessna 210 part number 0523800-17 fit on a 55 Cessna 180? The 180 part catalog lists 0523800-17 as use when 0523800-14 is exhausted so I'm thinking....yes.

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    Based solely on your post, I would agree. A Cessna part number is a Cessna part number. So...yes.
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    Good question. I always lump the 210 with the 206 for similarity. Wide flaps and short ailerons. Maybe the older 210 wing is similar to the 180 but the question is when did the wing change. A quick google glance says 1961. If in need of parts and applicability advice ask Peter at Skywagon City.

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    I got a chance to look at my Cessna books and it was 1964 when the 210 wing changed. From '60 to '63 the airframe evolved from 182-like to 206-like but the wing looks to be like the 180/182. In '64 it changed to the long flap/short aileron wing.

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    As a side question, does anyone know of anyone having installed a 206 wing on a 180/185?
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    Quote Originally Posted by skywagon8a View Post
    As a side question, does anyone know of anyone having installed a 206 wing on a 180/185?
    Flaps are very different between the two... One is electric, one is manual cable...are the bellcranks interchangeable? Don't think so....

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    Quote Originally Posted by nanook View Post
    Flaps are very different between the two... One is electric, one is manual cable...are the bellcranks interchangeable? Don't think so....
    That would be a relatively easy thing to change. Aren't the 206 flaps connected to each other by cable?
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    Quote Originally Posted by skywagon8a View Post
    As a side question, does anyone know of anyone having installed a 206 wing on a 180/185?
    and aileron to pilot control cables up front on 206

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    Quote Originally Posted by mike mcs repair View Post
    and aileron to pilot control cables up front on 206
    That is something else that could be taken care of. But, has anyone done it? I would think that the larger flaps and ailerons would work nicely on the 180/185s. Maybe the 206 aileron cables will not fit behind the rear spar to line up with the 180/185? Will the flaps be in the way? Do the wing attach fittings match up? I don't know.
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    A 206 tail dwarfs a 185 tail. The horizontal tail is better than 2' wider than the 185's. At least for post-'68 206s. I've never flown a 205. it has wings and horizontal tail similar to a 180/185. How does it compare to a post-'68 206? From the beginning the 206 tail was a foot wider than the 180/185 and after a few years it got even bigger. Why? I suspect a 206 wing and a 185 tail wouldn't be a happy combo.

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    I demolished an aileron on my 185 some years back with a hangar door incident. I don't recall what I replaced it with other than it wasn't from a 180 or 185. The only difference was in the lead counterweights which I salvaged and re-installed on the replacement.
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    The "A" model 206 had the small tail feathers. Built in 63 or 64....was a little weak in the flare, but a fast cruiser...the tail looked like a 180/185 tail.

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    FWIW, a 180/185 horizontal is 10'10" wide. The 205 shares that. The 210 until 1963. The 182 until '65. The 1964 (first year) 206 and 210 tail was 11'8" wide. The 182 went to that in '65. In '67 the 210 tail grew to 13' wide. The 206 followed in '68.

    Most guys don't care about Cessna evolution. I find it interesting. I'd like to sit with a room full of those engineers and designers and here what drove those changes from the 1960-something perspective. The 210 was introduced as a retractable 182 with an injected engine. The 205 was a fixed gear 210. The 206 morphed from the 205 and 210. Then from the P206 to the U206. The 182 got another try at a retractable. Fun stuff.

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    sb, Here is a tid bit for you. I can not remember the model year, perhaps 1978? Cessna installed the flap gap fairing on the 206. Why? The marketing department wanted it, because it was the latest aftermarket fad of the day. A Cessna test pilot told me that marketing insisted that it be installed. So they tested and approved it. The cruise speed increased by the amount of the needle crossing a line on the airspeed indicator and the stall speed increased by the same amount.
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    Received today. Looks like its a go!

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    Looks like its a go!
    Good to know.

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