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    And an oops for Rust's.......


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    ** Notice created 12/18/2012 Notice 1
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    IDENTIFICATION
    Regis#: 121KT Make/Model: DHC2 Description: DHC-2 Mk1 Beaver (U-6, L-20)
    Date: 12/16/2012 Time: 2100

    Event Type: Accident Highest Injury: None Mid Air: N Missing: N
    Damage: Substantial

    LOCATION
    City: PALMER State: AK Country: US

    DESCRIPTION
    AIRCRAFT ON LANDING SUSTAINED SUBSTANTIAL DAMAGE, FINGER LAKE, NEAR PALMER,
    AK

    INJURY DATA Total Fatal: 0
    # Crew: 1 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
    # Pass: 0 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
    # Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:

    OTHER DATA
    Activity: Unknown Phase: Landing Operation: OTHER

    FAA FSDO: ANCHORAGE, AK (AL03) Entry date: 12/18/2012
    Baloney is still baloney, no matter how thin you slice it.

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    Nice to know I'm not the only one that can screw up a float landing.

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    Probably on skis. Not much open water this time of year. Anyone know for sure??

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    The FAA website for Preliminary Accident and Incident Notices says that "Effective January 1, 2013, this service will no longer be provided." The only thing from the FAA I look at every day.
    Ineptocracy - A system of government where the least capable to lead are elected by the least capable of producing and where the members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed are rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a diminishing number of producers.

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    Skis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 375handh View Post
    The FAA website for Preliminary Accident and Incident Notices says that "Effective January 1, 2013, this service will no longer be provided." The only thing from the FAA I look at every day.
    First victim of the fiscal cliff! LOL

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    OK, I blame Cliff for as much as most, but I don't think he had anything to do with this.
    Ineptocracy - A system of government where the least capable to lead are elected by the least capable of producing and where the members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed are rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a diminishing number of producers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 375handh View Post
    The FAA website for Preliminary Accident and Incident Notices says that "Effective January 1, 2013, this service will no longer be provided."
    I'm getting laid off??

    Anne.
    Baloney is still baloney, no matter how thin you slice it.

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    http://www.avweb.com/avwebflash/news...ml?CMP=OTC-RSS

    December 21, 2012
    FAA Resolves Accident Webpage Error
    By Glenn Pew, Contributing Editor, Video Editor



    A banner posted on the FAA's popular preliminary accident and incident notices page as late as Thursday afternoon told visitors the service will be discontinued at the end of the year, but actual human beings at the FAA have told AVweb otherwise. The site provides preliminary information, updated daily, regarding the most recent aircraft accidents. It maintains the information in a rolling database covering the preceding 10 days. The banner sparked a few emails to AVweb, which prompted our emails to the FAA. Responses from contacts there unequivocally stated that the banner message was posted in error.
    AVweb brought the service termination message to the attention of FAA deputy assistant administrator for Public Affairs, Laura Brown, who responded plainly. "That's wrong. Our web team is on top of this and that will not happen. I'll get that pulled off the page. It IS used extensively." In other words, regardless of the posted message, the FAA says don't worry about losing access to the preliminary accident and incident notices page. As of Thursday, night, the termination message was removed.

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    Clay what were you thinking, don't tell her that
    Remember, These are the Good old Days!

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    Clay, thank you! I was hoping to get 30 years in on the job so I could collect my Supercub.org pension. Only need 29 more to qualify.

    OC, if you don't want me to post accidents, then don't have one.

    Stay safe, everyone!

    Anne.
    Baloney is still baloney, no matter how thin you slice it.

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    I must remember to "remove" the automatic, totally innocent, messages that are built in to all my websites about how they are all "shutting down January 1st, and will no longer be offered!" I can't remember why they were programmed in anyway. It must have been important to have the "automatic shutdown" feature. I mean what website doesn't have that feature? SJ can you comment? Do you have this feature on this website that you purposely leave out of your control? Do you have to get up each day and hit a "Don't post shutdown" button"?
    Last edited by qsmx440; 12-21-2012 at 12:06 PM. Reason: spelling. what else!

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    But Anne I was so looking forward to your unemployement guess I better keep working on keeping myself out of the funny papers, one hat is enough...
    Remember, These are the Good old Days!

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    From another group. I think this is another one of those illustrative videos that captures all the moments of an important event and gives a good window for those who haven't yet experienced something like it. I believe it's a Quicksilver 2S:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZ1PSfPqVjg

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    roadsigns SUCK!
    I don't know where you've been me lad, but I see you won first Prize!

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    **************************************
    ** Notice created 12/27/2012 Notice 3
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    IDENTIFICATION
    Regis#: 3134G Make/Model: PA18 Description: PA-18 Super Cub (L-18C, L-21, U-7)
    Date: 12/20/2012 Time: 0000

    Event Type: Accident Highest Injury: None Mid Air: N Missing: N
    Damage: Substantial

    LOCATION
    City: GRAHAM State: TX Country: US

    DESCRIPTION
    AIRCRAFT FORCE LANDED IN A GROVE OF TREES AND FLIPPED OVER, 2 MILES FROM
    GRAHAM, TX

    INJURY DATA Total Fatal: 0
    # Crew: 1 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
    # Pass: 1 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
    # Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:

    OTHER DATA
    Activity: Pleasure Phase: Other Operation: OTHER

    FAA FSDO: FORT WORTH, TX (SW19) Entry date: 12/26/2012
    Baloney is still baloney, no matter how thin you slice it.

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    oh ****.
    I don't know where you've been me lad, but I see you won first Prize!

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    Bad day but very lucky that there were no injuries.
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    The right wing looks useable!

    Glad all are ok Steve, so it was a good day. The engine looks like it needs a little JB weld and it will buff right out
    I don't know where you've been me lad, but I see you won first Prize!

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    Glad it was a happy ending... and remember the rebuild line forms at the rear
    Remember, These are the Good old Days!

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    Steve, would you mind telling us what happened? I'm glad no-one was hurt!

    Anne.
    Baloney is still baloney, no matter how thin you slice it.

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    Steve any chance a broken valve stem was involved in that? Or did the crank just break? It's hard to see from the picture but it looks like there is nothing in the rod end (i.e. old piece of crank). Along with these other stupid questions I was going to ask if the front two cylinders continued running but I can see the cam was wiped out on the initial blow up.

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    Sj is going to run out of flip flop hats

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    Quote Originally Posted by qsmx440 View Post
    Steve any chance a broken valve stem was involved in that? Or did the crank just break? It's hard to see from the picture but it looks like there is nothing in the rod end (i.e. old piece of crank). Along with these other stupid questions I was going to ask if the front two cylinders continued running but I can see the cam was wiped out on the initial blow up.
    It's a C90

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    This L18C (PA18-95) belongs to my younger brother. He and I took off after work last week just to get some flying in before the weather went to pot. Went down by Possum Kingdom Lake and were on our way back when I noticed the oil pressure go to zero. Oil temperature wasn't going up but rpm fell to 2000. We knew we needed to get on the ground but there was no really decent spot. RPM went to 1800 over a less tree infested field and suddenly sparks flew out of the right cowl door and the prop stopped. I have a lot of power off landings in this Cub but when the prop is stopped she falls way quicker. Had a huge tree in front of us and more beyond it so went into a slip and a bank around the tree and hit the ground kinda sideways and as we were sliding the left wing dug in and over she went. If we hadn't of flipped we would have gone into the trees along a creek. We got out without banging our heads and switched the electrical and the fuel selector off along with pulling the main buss fuses from under the seat but then realized the carburetor was on fire. The fire extinguisher was not in the airplane at the time so we resorted to throwing dirt on it to get it out. Once the excitement was over we could access the situation. It wasn't good, both wing tips damaged, firewall caved in, cabane vee broken and the rudder bent. We were both sick, especially him because he has been working on getting his PPL in this airplane. It was going to get dark soon so we started hiking out. I made that dreaded call to Cathy and she wanted to know if we were alright and if we had turned off the ELT. Darn, back to the airplane and off with the switch, didn't need to be rescued and with the front now moving through didn't want anyone out looking for us. We were less than 2 miles from the airport but took us a while to get back because of all the underbrush and fence lines.

    Fortunately the guy that lives across the street from my hanger works on that ranch and notified the land owner and the next morning had the ranch hand take us to the site after we showed him where it was on Google Maps. With the help of Tabitha and Travis along with my brothers Jeep we got back to it and had it flipped over and loaded in 2 hours. We stuck it in my storage hanger and called the FAA and filled out an NTSB report and that is when the phone started ringing. You never know how many people on the inside you know or who know you till something like this happens.

    Insurance adjuster came out Monday morning and looked at everything. I was really wanting to get into the engine to see what caused it all and he gave the go ahead. Found lots of metal in the oil pump but not much in the filter. After pulling the sump, accessory case and one cylinder I am still not sure what failed first. We will see when I get more time. Interesting fact which I new already, the insurance company will pay for the damage caused by the failure but not for the failure that caused the accident. So the airplane is covered except for the engine since it's failure was the cause. We have several bent wing ribs, leading edge skins and some damaged small wing parts along with the rudder and the rear spar carry-thru and firewall tubing to repair. New firewall forward etc. Tal has been recovering his wings after work hours and now it looks like Chris and Travis will be keeping him company. Good thing is no one was hurt and maybe someone else will learn from our misfortune.

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    Now you can take my plane off your web site and put your own........

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    So if you find a leaky oil hose or broken fitting, you pay for that and they pay for engine??

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    Really glad to hear no one was hurt! I'm sure you'll have it back in the air in no time.

    Quote Originally Posted by SteveE View Post
    Now you can take my plane off your web site and put your own........
    haha, good point Steve

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    Steve, you sure are getting a lot of emergency training recently. Glad everyone is ok. Hope yall get it back in the air soon.

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    Steve, glad you and your brother are both in good shape. Is that 3 of 9 lives marked off now?

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    Glad you guys are OK Steve. Good airmanship.......fly it as far into the crash as you can........

    You guys did good

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    Steve,

    Glad everyone is OK. What kind of shoulder harnesses do you have in there and how are they attached? The PA18-95 I'm looking at doesn't have any and I figure it's one of the first things I'll want to fix.

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    Looks like great flying, just a bit of a parking problem!

    Please let us know what the oil issue was.

    Thanks

    George
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    Man that sucks, but glad you both walked away!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mike mcs repair View Post
    So if you find a leaky oil hose or broken fitting, you pay for that and they pay for engine??
    Yes. No external fittings on the Continental though.

    Mike, We had stock shoulder harnesses to the floor in the back and Cub Crafters clamp on inertia reels in the front. Luckily we went over real slow, didn't even get the vertical stabilizer.

    Darrel, Unfortunately my cat lives have run out.
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    Steve, glad you guys made it without a scratch, thank you for posting so much details of how it plaid out, for me, it had a lot of value!

    As the New Year flows in
    May you soar ever higher
    Reach greater heights
    And be filled with joy once back up in the air.
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    Does this mean I do not get my powerplant time signed off.
    Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention to arrive safely in a well preserved body but rather to slide in sideways, well used up proclaiming "WOW What a Ride"

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    ************************************
    ** Notice created 1/7/2013 Notice 2
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    IDENTIFICATION
    Regis#: 7780Y Make/Model: PA18 Description: PA-18 Super Cub (L-18C, L-21, U-7)
    Date: 01/04/2013 Time: 2115

    Event Type: Accident Highest Injury: None Mid Air: N Missing: N
    Damage: Substantial

    LOCATION
    City: PALMER State: AK Country: US

    DESCRIPTION
    AIRCRAFT ON LANDING, SUSTAINED SUBSTANTIAL DAMAGE, JIM LAKE 5 MILES FROM
    PALMER, AK

    INJURY DATA Total Fatal: 0
    # Crew: 1 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
    # Pass: 0 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
    # Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:

    OTHER DATA
    Activity: Unknown Phase: Landing Operation: OTHER

    FAA FSDO: ANCHORAGE, AK (AL03) Entry date: 01/07/2013
    Baloney is still baloney, no matter how thin you slice it.

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    **************************************
    ** Notice created 1/16/2013 Notice 7
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    IDENTIFICATION
    Regis#: 7ZR Make/Model: HUSK Description: A-1 HUSKY
    Date: 01/15/2013 Time: 2000

    Event Type: Incident Highest Injury: None Mid Air: N Missing: N
    Damage: Unknown

    LOCATION
    City: SANDUSKY State: OH Country: US

    DESCRIPTION
    AIRCRAFT ON LANDING GROUND LOOPED AND WENT OFF THE RUNWAY, SANDUSKY, OH

    INJURY DATA Total Fatal: 0
    # Crew: 1 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
    # Pass: 0 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
    # Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:

    OTHER DATA
    Activity: Pleasure Phase: Landing Operation: OTHER

    FAA FSDO: CLEVELAND, OH (GL25) Entry date: 01/16/2013
    Baloney is still baloney, no matter how thin you slice it.

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    Not Supercubs, but sort-of close cousins:

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    ** Notice created 1/22/2013 Notice 2
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    IDENTIFICATION
    Regis#: 2341N Make/Model: C140 Description:
    Date: 01/19/2013 Time: 2230

    Event Type: Accident Highest Injury: Fatal Mid Air: N Missing: N
    Damage: Destroyed

    LOCATION
    City: BOULDER State: UT Country: US

    DESCRIPTION
    AIRCRAFT STRUCK POWERLINES AND CRASHED, THE 2 PERSONS ON BOARD WERE FATALLY
    INJURED, 8 MILES FROM BOULDER, UT

    INJURY DATA Total Fatal: 2
    # Crew: 2 Fat: 2 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
    # Pass: 0 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
    # Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:

    OTHER DATA
    Activity: Unknown Phase: Unknown Operation: OTHER

    FAA FSDO: SALT LAKE CITY, UT (NM07) Entry date: 01/22/2013


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    ** Notice created 1/22/2013 Notice 4
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    IDENTIFICATION
    Regis#: 2323D Make/Model: C170 Description:
    Date: 01/20/2013 Time: 1833

    Event Type: Accident Highest Injury: None Mid Air: N Missing: N
    Damage: Substantial

    LOCATION
    City: ERIE State: CO Country: US

    DESCRIPTION
    AIRCRAFT ON TAKEOFF FLIPPED OVER, ERIE, CO

    INJURY DATA Total Fatal: 0
    # Crew: 1 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
    # Pass: 1 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
    # Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:

    OTHER DATA
    Activity: Pleasure Phase: Take-off Operation: OTHER

    FAA FSDO: DENVER, CO (NM03) Entry date: 01/22/2013
    Baloney is still baloney, no matter how thin you slice it.

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