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    Oops, darn it...

    Quote Originally Posted by mike mcs repair View Post
    well, looks like Alice hasn't figured out landing yet... again....
    first picture is story is a video...
    http://mustreadalaska.com/shes-gonna...campbell-lake/



    below is her last crash/botched landing on floats... a year or two? ago(it's somewhere in this thread).... I think these are/were new cessnas too??..
    I was told from a solid source, that vid was of her taking off a few weeks ago.


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    Has there been any more information about the pilot that died in the crash near Chakachamna Lake? I just like to know of mechanical problems regarding major crashes, so I can improve my preflights / in-flight decisions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex Clark View Post
    IDENTIFICATION
    Date: 24-SEP-17
    Time: 21:40:00Z
    Regis#: N1755C
    Aircraft Make: CESSNA
    Aircraft Model: 180
    Event Type: INCIDENT
    Highest Injury: UNKNOWN
    Aircraft Missing: No
    Damage: UNKNOWN
    LOCATION
    City: SKWENTNA RIVER
    State: ALASKA
    Country: UNITED STATES
    DESCRIPTION
    Description: AIRCRAFT WAS FLOATING UPSIDE DOWN IN RIVER.

    From another forum: """said the engine quit with no warning, no roughness, stumbling, etc. He was returning from the McGrath area after a moose hunt and had topped off the tanks the night before, should not have been a quantity issue unless there was an unnoticed leak or venting going on. They were pretty low when they lost power, sounded like the river was the best spot. After successfully getting it on the water they floated downstream for 10 mins or so. As his buddy stood out on the float trying to get a rope to shore, the pilot made radio calls to keep updating people on their position. Eventually they came around a bend and hit a sweeper, plane jammed in and in a few secs sucked the upstream wing under and rolled the plane. His buddy on the floats got launched into the water and he got sucked under with the plane. Fortunately he was able to swim out and inflate his vest. They were both eventually able to make it to shore and jumped around trying to stay warm until the boats arrived about 10 mins later.

    Super lucky to alive. He said their inflatable float vests and his survival training are what saved him."""
    so just out of gas??? didn't watch fuel gauges?????

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    Quote Originally Posted by sharp View Post
    Has there been any more information about the pilot that died in the crash near Chakachamna Lake? I just like to know of mechanical problems regarding major crashes, so I can improve my preflights / in-flight decisions.
    Ive heard nothing.
    The report said that the RCC responded to an ELT signal at 10:47 pm. If that's when the crash occurred then part of the issue is the choice to fly at night in an area of minimal lights for reference.
    Disorientation would be very easy. Must have wanted to get home badly.
    So sad!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex Clark View Post
    IDENTIFICATION
    Date: 24-SEP-17
    Time: 21:40:00Z
    Regis#: N1755C
    Aircraft Make: CESSNA
    Aircraft Model: 180
    Event Type: INCIDENT
    Highest Injury: UNKNOWN
    Aircraft Missing: No
    Damage: UNKNOWN
    LOCATION
    City: SKWENTNA RIVER
    State: ALASKA
    Country: UNITED STATES
    DESCRIPTION
    Description: AIRCRAFT WAS FLOATING UPSIDE DOWN IN RIVER.

    From another forum: """said the engine quit with no warning, no roughness, stumbling, etc. He was returning from the McGrath area after a moose hunt and had topped off the tanks the night before, should not have been a quantity issue unless there was an unnoticed leak or venting going on. They were pretty low when they lost power, sounded like the river was the best spot. After successfully getting it on the water they floated downstream for 10 mins or so. As his buddy stood out on the float trying to get a rope to shore, the pilot made radio calls to keep updating people on their position. Eventually they came around a bend and hit a sweeper, plane jammed in and in a few secs sucked the upstream wing under and rolled the plane. His buddy on the floats got launched into the water and he got sucked under with the plane. Fortunately he was able to swim out and inflate his vest. They were both eventually able to make it to shore and jumped around trying to stay warm until the boats arrived about 10 mins later.

    Super lucky to alive. He said their inflatable float vests and his survival training are what saved him."""
    http://www.ktuu.com/content/news/Two...448781923.html

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    A good lesson, reinforcing what the experienced guys here already tell us.

    https://www.facebook.com/notes/ga-sa...3011152778208/

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    . Rescuers searching for a Russian Mission pilot found the man's airplane in the Yukon River downriver from the village, but the man himself is still missing, Alaska State Troopers said Tuesday.

    Kyle Stevens, 31, went missing Monday while flying a small plane from Russian Mission to Bethel to pick up volunteers for the Christian mission where he works, a co-worker said.

    https://www.adn.com/alaska-news/rura...-since-monday/

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    Arctic Tern Interior Alaska NTSB report: https://app.ntsb.gov/pdfgenerator/Re...Final&IType=FA

    Stall/spin/NTSB implied GW and CG issue? Big extended baggage for things to move in and sharp stalling 23012 airfoil?

    https://dms.ntsb.gov/pubdms/search/d...727&mkey=95243

    Experienced pilot in gusty winds. Good people gone.

    Gary
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    Were they holding on to the wings?... "ANCHORAGE, Alaska (KTUU) — Five people were rescued by Alaska Air National Guard airmen Monday after surviving a plane crash in wilderness near Pingston Creek, roughly 90 miles east of McGrath.According to the Alaska National Guard, the Alaska Rescue Coordination Center received a satellite phone call from the pilot of the PA-18 Super Cub after it crashed west of the Alaska Range.
    After receiving the call, AKRCC tasked airmen from the Air Guard's 210th, 211th, and 212th Rescue Squadrons with the rescue. The team deployed from JBER in an HH-60 Pave Hawk helicopter and an HC-130J fixed-wing support aircraft.
    The rescue team located the crash and rescued all five survivors, who were taken to Alaska Regional Hospital for treatment."...
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlipFlop View Post
    Were they holding on to the wings?... "ANCHORAGE, Alaska (KTUU) — Five people were rescued by Alaska Air National Guard airmen Monday after surviving a plane crash in wilderness near Pingston Creek, roughly 90 miles east of McGrath.According to the Alaska National Guard, the Alaska Rescue Coordination Center received a satellite phone call from the pilot of the PA-18 Super Cub after it crashed west of the Alaska Range.
    After receiving the call, AKRCC tasked airmen from the Air Guard's 210th, 211th, and 212th Rescue Squadrons with the rescue. The team deployed from JBER in an HH-60 Pave Hawk helicopter and an HC-130J fixed-wing support aircraft.
    The rescue team located the crash and rescued all five survivors, who were taken to Alaska Regional Hospital for treatment."...
    lumber rack, sideways I assume....

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    Wow I want one of these new 5 seat models. Need more horses though.
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    They had a hunting camp and took them all back I bet.
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    I have a vision of a modified belly pod with places for three baby carriers. Open air, of course. Parents of triplets should not have to give up their outdoor activities...
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    Busy week. RCC also picked up 4 people on the Knik after an ATV accident, and one person (known and liked by many here) after the wind toppled his Cub out west.

    https://www.echoak.com/2018/08/alask...ingston-creek/

    http://www.nationalguard.mil/News/Ar...end-incidents/

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    Updated. http://www.ktuu.com/content/news/Fiv...491412322.html


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    And yet another C-206 busted up on the beach

    https://www.adn.com/alaska-news/avia...flight-safety/

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    DENTIFICATION
    Date: 20-AUG-18
    Time: 16:30:00Z
    Regis#: N6727A
    Aircraft Make: PIPER
    Aircraft Model: PA 18 150
    Event Type: INCIDENT
    Highest Injury: UNKNOWN
    Aircraft Missing: No
    Damage: UNKNOWN
    LOCATION
    City: PINGSTON
    State: ALASKA
    Country: UNITED STATES
    DESCRIPTION
    Description: CRASHED DUE TO UNK CIRCUMSTANCES
    INJURY DATA
    Total Fatal: 0

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    e: 19-AUG-18
    Time: 06:08:00Z
    Regis#: N3872Z
    Aircraft Make: PIPER
    Aircraft Model: PA 18 150
    Event Type: INCIDENT
    Highest Injury: UNKNOWN
    Aircraft Missing: No
    Damage: UNKNOWN
    LOCATION
    City: STONY RIVER
    State: ALASKA
    Country: UNITED STATES
    DESCRIPTION
    Description: CRASHED DUE TO UNKN CIRCUMSTANCES
    INJURY DATA
    Total Fatal: 0
    Fatal Serious Minor None Unknown
    Flight Crew 0 0 0 0 1
    Cabin Crew 0 0 0 0 0
    Passenger 0 0 0 0 0
    Ground 0 0 0 0 0
    OTHER
    Activity: UNKNOWN
    Flight Phase: UNKNOWN (UNK)
    Operation: 91
    Aircraft Operator:
    Flight Number:
    FAA FSDO: ANCHORAGE
    Entry Date: 20-AUG-18
    Updated since entry: No




    IDENTIFICATION
    Date: 19-AUG-18
    Time: 20:00:00Z
    Regis#: N27973
    Aircraft Make: PIPER
    Aircraft Model: J3F 60
    Event Type: INCIDENT
    Highest Injury: NONE
    Aircraft Missing: No
    Damage: MINOR
    LOCATION
    City: GENEVA
    State: OHIO
    Country: UNITED STATES
    DESCRIPTION
    Description: MADE A HARD LANDING, BOUNCED, VEERED OFF THE RUNWAY AND CAME TO REST ON THE NOSE
    INJURY DATA
    Total Fatal: 0
    Fatal Serious Minor None Unknown
    Flight Crew 0 0 0 1 0
    Cabin Crew 0 0 0 0 0
    Passenger 0 0 0 1 0
    Ground 0 0 0 0 0
    OTHER
    Activity: INSTRUCTION
    Flight Phase: LANDING (LDG)
    Operation: 91
    Aircraft Operator:
    Flight Number:
    FAA FSDO: CLEVELAND
    Entry Date: 20-AUG-18
    Updated since entry: No

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    DENTIFICATION
    Date: 15-AUG-18
    Time: 22:45:00Z
    Regis#: N4165Z
    Aircraft Make: PIPER
    Aircraft Model: PA 18 150
    Event Type: INCIDENT
    Highest Injury: NONE
    Aircraft Missing: No
    Damage: UNKNOWN
    LOCATION
    City: TRADING BAY
    State: ALASKA
    Country: UNITED STATES
    DESCRIPTION
    Description: LOST CONTROL ON LANDING

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    IDENTIFICATION
    Date: 13-AUG-18
    Time: 16:00:00Z
    Regis#: N42218
    Aircraft Make: PIPER
    Aircraft Model: J3C 65
    Event Type: INCIDENT
    Highest Injury: NONE
    Aircraft Missing: No
    Damage: UNKNOWN
    LOCATION
    City: FRIENDSWOOD
    State: TEXAS
    Country: UNITED STATES
    DESCRIPTION
    Description: AIRCRAFT VEERED OFF THE RUNWAY AND HIT A TREE
    INJURY DATA
    Total Fatal: 0

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    Anybody no anymore details on a 206 that flipped over at mirror lake? N84jm use to belong to my dad now it’s owned by I think a member on here.

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    IDENTIFICATION
    Date: 25-AUG-18
    Time: 22:08:00Z
    Regis#: N5392Y
    Aircraft Make: PIPER
    Aircraft Model: PA 18 150
    Event Type: ACCIDENT
    Highest Injury: SERIOUS
    Aircraft Missing: No
    Damage: SUBSTANTIAL
    LOCATION
    City: WASILLA
    State: ALASKA
    Country: UNITED STATES
    DESCRIPTION
    Description: WENT OFF THE SIDE OF THE RUNWAY INTO SWAMPY AREA AND FLIPPED OVE

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    IDENTIFICATION
    Date: 21-AUG-18
    Time: 17:40:00Z
    Regis#: N2491M
    Aircraft Make: PIPER
    Aircraft Model: PA 12
    Event Type: INCIDENT
    Highest Injury: NONE
    Aircraft Missing: No
    Damage: UNKNOWN
    LOCATION
    City: HERTFORD COUNTY
    State: NORTH CAROLINA
    Country: UNITED STATES
    DESCRIPTION
    Description: AIRCRAFT LANDED IN RIVER AND FLIPPED OVER
    INJURY DATA

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    IDENTIFICATION
    Date: 20-AUG-18
    Time: 16:30:00Z
    Regis#: N6727A
    Aircraft Make: PIPER
    Aircraft Model: PA 18 150
    Event Type: INCIDENT
    Highest Injury: UNKNOWN
    Aircraft Missing: No
    Damage: UNKNOWN
    LOCATION
    City: PINGSTON
    State: ALASKA
    Country: UNITED STATES
    DESCRIPTION
    Description: CRASHED DUE TO UNK CIRCUMSTANCES

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    This is a depressing thread.
    Cessna Skywagon-- accept no substitute!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hotrod180 View Post
    This is a depressing thread.
    This thread wasn’t started to be uplifting. It offers frequent reminders of the potential risks of aviation. Sometimes reminders of our frailties are good preventive measures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hotrod180 View Post
    This is a depressing thread.
    Not for those of us in the returning your balled up plane in the back of your pickup truck to a better than new flying machine...

    btw shameless plug my shop is empty for the first time in years... I need a new project


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    It's now September hunting season and there's bound to be a few aircraft bruises. Hope folks pay attention when the weather deteriorates.

    Gary

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    Quote Originally Posted by BC12D-4-85 View Post
    It's now September hunting season and there's bound to be a few aircraft bruises. Hope folks pay attention when the weather deteriorates.

    Gary
    43 this weekend https://www.asias.faa.gov/apex/f?p=100:93:::NO:::

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    mike mcs, Did you see this?
    http://rgl.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgSAIB.nsf/0/eb82f2d1dd54e441862582fe006da2ef/$FILE/CE-18-26.pdf

    I can't seem to copy the picture which shows a fixed pitch McCauley Model 1A170/FFA prop broken right through the middle of the hub. I've never heard of one of these breaking like this. Blades yes, but hubs no. Do you suppose that it had previously been involved in a sudden stoppage from a strike? The AD calls for inspecting the prop every 200 hours. That's good enough for me to scrap the prop if it can't be trusted for more than 200 hours.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skywagon8a View Post
    mike mcs, Did you see this?
    http://rgl.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgSAIB.nsf/0/eb82f2d1dd54e441862582fe006da2ef/$FILE/CE-18-26.pdf

    I can't seem to copy the picture which shows a fixed pitch McCauley Model 1A170/FFA prop broken right through the middle of the hub. I've never heard of one of these breaking like this. Blades yes, but hubs no. Do you suppose that it had previously been involved in a sudden stoppage from a strike? The AD calls for inspecting the prop every 200 hours. That's good enough for me to scrap the prop if it can't be trusted for more than 200 hours.
    Impressive. Nope never seen one fail up close to hub

    http://rgl.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgSAIB.nsf/0/eb82f2d1dd54e441862582fe006da2ef/$FILE/CE-18-26.pdf




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    Good people lost: http://www.newsminer.com/news/alaska...d1311f48a.html

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    2 Fairbanks hunters found dead in wreckage of plane

    Author: Michelle Theriault Boots


    Two Fairbanks men have been found dead in the wreckage of their crashed airplane east of Healy, the Alaska State Troopers said.

    Timothy Sonnenberg, 45, and Jason Roberts, 43, left from Fairbanks on a hunting trip in the area of the Nenana River some time earlier in September, according to troopers. They were reported overdue on Friday morning.

    The men had been in Sonnenberg's Piper PA-12 when they went missing, according to troopers and an online search fundraiser. Their last known coordinates were near the west fork of the Delta River, according to the fundraiser.

    On Saturday, a pilot told troopers he saw a plane that "appeared to be burned."

    "There did not appear to be any survivors," troopers wrote.

    The site of the crash is about 35 miles east of Healy, in mountainous terrain, said Clint Johnson of the National Transportation Safety Board.

    On Sunday, the Alaska Rescue Coordination Center sent a military helicopter to the site of the crash.

    Sonnenberg and Roberts were found dead inside the wreckage, troopers said.

    As of early Sunday afternoon, an effort to recover the bodies was still underway.

    The weather — with low clouds, rain and fog — hasn't been good enough for NTSB investigators to land, Johnson said. They will need a helicopter to access the site.

    "We're waiting on a weather window," he said.

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    IDENTIFICATION
    Date: 21-SEP-18
    Time: 22:46:00Z
    Regis#: N1356H
    Aircraft Make: AERONCA
    Aircraft Model: 15AC..... SEDAN
    Event Type: ACCIDENT
    Highest Injury: NONE
    Aircraft Missing: No
    Damage: DESTROYED
    LOCATION
    City: LAKE SHANNON
    State: MICHIGAN
    Country: UNITED STATES
    DESCRIPTION
    Description: FLOAT AIRCRAFT FLIPPED OVER WHILE TAXIING

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    This N number sounds familiar

    IDENTIFICATION
    Date: 23-SEP-18
    Time: 06:45:00Z
    Regis#: N9RW
    Aircraft Make: DEHAVILLAND
    Aircraft Model: DHC 2 MK I (L20A)
    Event Type: INCIDENT
    Highest Injury: UNKNOWN
    Aircraft Missing: No
    Damage: UNKNOWN
    LOCATION
    City: KUKAKLEK LAKE
    State: ALASKA
    Country: UNITED STATES
    DESCRIPTION
    Description: COLLIDED WITH RIVER BANK

    Oh yeah, it was wrecked back in 2010 due to not back-taxiing far enough on the lake and not aborting the T/O/
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    https://www.royalwolf.com

    they also had that helio talked about last week(corrosion ?) from 2006 or 7? crash

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    This N number sounds familiar

    Oh yeah, it was wrecked back in 2010 due to not back-taxiing far enough on the lake and not aborting the T/O/

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    I disassembled RW to recover it for its' helicopter ride after the earlier wreck. The pilot screwed up. And that was a very nice Beaver then. Bummer for them at the very end of the season this year!

    The Helio was very likely a medical issue for the pilot at low altitude. Nevermind what the experts say.
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