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Oops, darn it...

MT12 said:
why do you bother to repeat crap like that, unnamed person, unnamed source, 'supposedly'. heretofore this was an interesting discussion
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Okay, tonight at the FAA RSAT meeting here in Bozeman, our Tower Chief was asked about this incident. He explained:

Delta was told "turn left to 250 after takeoff" instead of "Turn RIGHT to 250 after takeoff". Pilot turned left. Tower saw the deviation on their radar, but Delta had already switched to Big Sky Departure. Tower got on the phone to Big Sky, and got it sorted in time.

I'm guessing there were a LOT of bells and whistles going off in that cockpit though. Hard to believe that a two person crew would accept a left turn into terrain.....

So, that's from the horse's mouth. No idea if the crew got chewed on, but I sure hope so. Controller was totally up front.

MTV
 
I'm Always thankful for this thread. We are all human. Lots to learn and re-learn. We can brief the daylights out of the charts, but still lack the big picture, or loose the big picture with a simple distraction. or be led astray by something not quit right. like if ATC says "Turn Left heading 280."

I could see myself following ATC's instructions.

The pilot flying is hand flying in the soup. The pilot monitoring is not monitoring, rather is head is down doing the after take off check, raising the gear, raising the flaps,gets interrupted by ATC, spins the heading bug around for the Pilot flying, that gets confrimed by the pilot flying, now, where was I??? He follows the Flight director turning left. Oh yeah, the ATO checklist "gear up -flaps up" heading change, confirm the heading. The big buzzwords at my work right now are Verbalize Verhify Monitor...meaning Verbalize the new heading, verify the heading and monitor the outcome. Maybe I was Rushed, behind, seldom been there, mountains obscured by clouds, maybe a new crewmember, hungry, long day, mild fatigue.

It's takes time and attention, which makes us a bit more fragile and prone to something like this. We are resiliant when we can screw up and catch it. This is a good reminder for me to slow down, and understand the big picture of the Cumulo-granite.
 
Good points but I think there is alot more to this story than left instead of right. His final departure course was to be close to 150, 250 would have put them way off course and the Bobcat 2 departure is almost straight out. Also odd his climb out as reported on the expensive version of flight radar was just 280fpm, odd gets odder.
 
He will be getting billed for "loss of power production" from the agency who owns the lines, on top of everything else. I know this from my crane business. Or so I've heard... Lucky SOB all in all.
 
Glad he was able to get free of the plane, and rescue personnel were on scene quickly to render aid. Getting out of a plane in the water isn’t as easy as it looks, particularly if injured.

Power lines will be repaired. Those suckers are HARD to see, particularly if not marked.

MTV
 
Op Ed:

He didn’t know about the wires, or didn’t remember.
He had recently purchased the cub from a well known instructor in Maine, who offered some instruction at the sale but offer was declined.

Installed new 35’s, starting offering instruction.

“Almost witness” saw him flying low up the river and knew about the wires ahead and “waited for the sound of the crash and then dialed 911”.

After the crash the pilot was able to swim to shore, but it must have been a struggle. He is now in a Boston hospital with a broken back in multiple places.

Cub had 400 smoh, engine was “best thing on it” per seller.

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Lucky for sure.
Second crash related to this set of wires. Might be time for some balls to be installed.


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If you're going to be playing on a river fly overhead first and check for wires. I know, it's no fun to fly high first. It's more fun than clipping wires
 
It was a sweet flying A model on floats last summer, got my rating in it up in Maine. Strong running engine at that time…
 
I did my SES rating on the Colorado river at Laughlin. We had been on the lake above the dam and were returning to the river. My instructor asked "Do you see the wires?". I replied "Yes, I see the wires" then almost immediately realized there were two sets of wires and I had initially seen only one of them. That was an "Oh sh**" moment on an otherwise very enjoyable day.
 
Yes, agree totally on the belt. All the jets I flew had a crotch strap to hold the belt in place. As far as the video and wires in general, when I retired I spent a year flying power line patrol in a 407. We had to take a two day course on flying in The wire environment. Very good course. Even when the mission was to be in proximity to the wires, there were two occasions when my heart was in my throat after losing sight of the conductor. Be careful.....
 
Does anyone have any info on a Pacer crash at Lower Loon Lake, ID (C53) that occurred on 6/26/2022?
Thanks
 
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