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    Tool For Replacing Elevator and Rudder Bushings

    Over the years I have found lots of worn elevator and rudder bushings on fabric covered Pipers. Luckily Piper made these bushings replaceable unlike some other manufacturers. The bushings are common to all the fabric Pipers as part number 80022-045 for the short at $1.02 and 80022-044 for the long at $.85 from Univair. I used to use a punch type tool to drive them in and out but it seemed to mushroom the ends of the bushing a little and made it hard to get the hinge pin in. That led to the design of the tool I now use which actually pushes the old bushing in while installing the new one. Several people have asked me recently about obtaining one of these tools for themselves so they can replace their own bushings so I dropped the tool off with my machinist friend yesterday. He got back to me with a price and thought I would put it on here if anyone was interested in a tool for themselves. All you need to operate the tool is a 3/16" Allen wrench and a 7/16" wrench. The price will be $30. I am trying to get an idea of how many to make before I order the metal and cap screws so if you would like one please let me know. Thanks.

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    OK, I'll take one

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    That looks like it works better than anything I have used. Put me down for one.

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    I would like one as well. Just a thought, maybe SJ can sell them thru the Supercub.org store.

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    I'll take one also. Jim

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    Does that drive on drill bend or is solid ? does that come with ?

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    That is a 6" long Allen head socket with a ball end which allows it to swivel 20 degrees. I can include one of them for $10 additional.
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    I would like one. Thank you.

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    Hi Steve
    I would like to get one of these tools from you. Let me knw how.
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    Steve, mark me down for one also and I will take the allen wrench also.

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    steve, I would like two please.

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    I will take one also.

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    I'll have one as well

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    Such a neat, simple tool. I can't pass that up. I would also like one. jrh joerhenry@suddenlink.net
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    Steve, does the tool work for the small hinges too? It looks it would fit in between.

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    Put me down for one... Thanks.

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    I would like one also with the flex drive. Thanks
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    I want one with the bit but I'm waiting to see if Tim buy's one so I can just borrow his.

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    I'll take one with the allen wrench... just pm me or e mail. Thanks!

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    One with the allen wrench for me, please. pm or email.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bugs66 View Post
    Steve, does the tool work for the small hinges too? It looks it would fit in between.
    Yes, it does the short bushings and the long. Won't fit in between but pulls them on the side with the screw thru the other bushing.
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    I'll just let Steve use his on mine

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    Ha, already done. I can tell who the tool junkies are.
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    Steve,

    I am in for two with two long allens. That way when I am forced to lend mine out I will have a spare.

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    I'm in for one, with the Allen, please. I did mine last year and did a crummy job. With the correct tool I ought to be able to do a far better job this time.
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    Steve,
    I will take one with the allen wrench. How do I pay you?
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    Did u already send the felt to Chile? I'd be happy to get one of the tools.

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    and lowes had the task force electric screw driver kinda like shown in steve's first picture on clearance rack a few days ago for $11.. I got one.. not sure if it got enough umph for the job but seems fine....

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    Count me in with a long allen wrench.

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    One for me, too Steve!
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    Thanks everyone. Ordered material yesterday and the program for the screw machine is written. Hope to have them ready next week and I will set it up on an online store where you can use a credit card or mail a check. If you would like one and have not communicated with me yet please do so I can make sure we make enough. I ordered extra material. Thanks.
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    Steve, I made a similar one when I did my wings to push out the bushings for the spar attach brackets so you may want to also make up one for that application also.

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    Mark at Dakota Cub gave me a set of those for installing and removing the spar bushings. That is where the idea came from for the elevator and rudder bushing tool. I am not very original.
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    I want one.

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    As long as JP is getting the tool, I'll just borrow his

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    Dave Arend Birchwood would like one.

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    You got it Dave, hope all is well.
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    Steve,

    How common is it that the bushings need to be replaced? How often do they need to be replaced and also, how much play is too much with the clevis pin installed? Do you replace these bushings when doing a full restoration whether they need to be replaced or not? Also, the same questions applies to the landing gear bushings too in the gear and in the frame and to the spar attach bushings too. Thanks Steve.

    Kevin

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    The most common ones I see worn are the outboard elevator bushings. It takes quite a while for them to wear and I think it is just one of those neglected items that a lot of mechanics either overlook or don't want to mess with. With the tool I made it is quick and easy for me and can be done in about 10 minutes. Cotter pins are the hardest part. I hold the stabilizer with one hand and pick up and down on the hinge line of the elevator with the other and see if there is play. If there is a replace them because once it starts it gets worse quick.

    As far as the gear bolts, I have seen some on some wore out Super Cubs but not too much. It is harder to check unless you have the airplane suspended from sea plane lift rings or a wing jack. I just use a bushing driver kit for those since they are steel and have had good luck installing and removing without a special tool.

    I haven't found any bad wing spar bushings but remove them in a complete wing rebuild. I have a similar tool for removing the spar bushings and another to install I got compliments of Dakota Cub after Kase and I did some troubleshooting on the Super 18 at New Holstein one year.
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